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I have the longest old beta clipstick, but it barely locks the top section (the red bit) and it rotates 95% of the time with a qd and rope in it.

I haven't found a way to fix this.

Anyone had this problem and solved it?

I couldn’t find a way to keep the end piece extended without rotating either.

My solution was to drill a hole with the end closed, put a small screw all the way through and then file the end of the screw flush. Obviously, the final red piece doesn’t extend anymore but the stick is still useable.

Hope that helps. 

finger tape?

It's a dire design, I have multiple sections not locking and then just collapsing and rotating now. If it weren't for the fact that I got the longest one on clearance when the much better newer version got released I would have kicked it out ages ago.

Mine is similar, but locks if it’s not fully extended.

Seems a bit temperamental, but mine have been going for about 10 years and still working on the whole 👍🏻

I had the original beta stick. Aluminium and unpainted, long. Broke very quickly but managed to keep using for a decade or so. Then have had multiple new beta sticks that all break within a few weeks regardless of how you treat them.

Now I've got a Pongoose. Expensive but far far better. Ditch the beta stick and get a Pongoose is my advice!

Emailed you!

This!

The new beta sticks with the green locking clasps rather than the twist locks are much better than the old version. Much more robust contraction and they don’t slip and fail like the old version… collapse down shorter too

Ive got a new style one and use a few other peoples too, they all slip sooner or later in my experience. 

At least when they ship they don't end up freely spinning, usually resulting in having to collapse the whole thing and starting over.

In the end, everything turns to kipple

the slipping is easily fixed by adding a small sliver of plastic in the clamp... takes seconds to do if you know how... there is a video on YouTube to show how it is done

Very true, but Beta sticks seem in a rush.

Fair enough, just be nice if they lasted a bit longer before needing repairs.

Your website (which you advertise in your post here) looks a little sad. 'Latest News: 24/09/2019.'

Just a comment.

Many thanks all for the advice.

I know, we're in the process of updating.

Just as a general question and not trying to hijack the thread but what information/content would you want to see on the website?

I've had several. And at random stages the locking mechanisms in one of various clasps explodes making the thing virtually unusable. I'm far from alone in experiencing this.

The beta design is brill, but the materials in the clasp are too brittle. If they could sort this out that would change the game!

I suggest you ask them, see what they say. I once asked a question about a suspected defect and although there was a couple of days to respond they were friendly and helpful 

info@betaclimbingdesigns.com

In their defence they sent me a replacement plastic clamp bit foc for my split one. 

I've found it's fine as long as you a) use the big fat sections first and b) don't extend them all the way if you don't have to. Keep a few inches of each back for stability and it doesn't stress the plastic anywhere near as much.

However not long after I replaced the broken bit someone at the crag borrowed it, and, predictably extended only the smallest, weakest, section and split the clamp 🙄

If you're interested we did a fair amount of development of the claps in the last 12 months.

If you took one of the old ones apart it would have 3 seperate collars, we've totally remolded it to remove the problem of the collars breaking etc. 

The below video explains it so much better than I am right now!!

https://fb.watch/i88m4oI6Eg/

"Spare parts" shop section. Would be great to be able to buy replacements easily without having to bother someone. More than happy to pay for the bit but I need a new smallest clamp thing 😁

I think I've got the same stick and the same problem - could you email me?

I superglued mine!

I bought a brand new beta stick (one of the ones that looked like a clarinet with keys rather then a twist lock). The rubber bit on the end fell off so I super glued it back on but I didn't to extend the stick first (major mistake, d'oh), so if course it gunked it all up and stuck the layers together.

Then in trying to extract the sections (with some over enthusiastic pulling) broke the fragile clips in one section, and now it's knackered before ever being used in anger!

Had a go at drawing it and printed myself one. Semi-surprisingly it works really well, and I made it thicker at the back where the original split so hopefully will be robust. If anyone wants the stl give me a shout.

Bloody hell, that’s impressive! 

Yes please!

https://www.printables.com/model/382358-betastick-clamp-smallest

Edit: Hopefully obvious but you'll want to flip it other way up before printing. Sorry, forgot to do that before I exported.

Edit edit: and use ABS with 100% infill, or print hollow and epoxy fill, or whatever you do to make strong parts, obvs. My PLA fit test print served its purpose but didn't stand a chance.

Brilliant - thanks for that. I’ll try it out next week.