/ PRODUCT NEWS: Five Ten Quantum VCS
Is anyone actually selling these? Potentially buying a pair of the laced version but want to try these on first... Thanks.
Check back on the post tomorrow. If any of the shops that advertise with UKC have them in stock there will be links at the bottom.
Uhm...why didn't they call it 5.10 Skwama? *Just sayin'*
Should I know what Skwama is?
A reference to the La Sportiva Skwama perhaps?
> Should I know what Skwama is?
Yes. It's been a flagship Sportiva shoe for going on three years.
That said this new Quantum is stiff where the Skwama is soft, has two velcro closures, and a totally different heel, harder rubber (C4 is harder than XS Grip II IME), is synthetic where the Skwama uses calf leather, has a full edge where the Skwama uses a blend of front edge on the toe and no-edge on the sides, has a less aggressive downturn and a wide fit last as opposed to La Sportiva which are notoriously narrow, even in their wider models.
^ Maybe because it's a totally different shoe from a totally different brand.
Do some actual research before spewing opinions, please. *Just Sayin*.
It's a good thing you're not the Gear Editor Paul ;-)
> Uhm...why didn't they call it 5.10 Skwama? *Just sayin'*
As MischaHY says, the two shoes are nothing alike. I actually wear and like the Skwama a lot but I'm looking for a UK limestone sport and trad shoe and the Skwama definitely is not that (excluding specific steep/short routes of course).
I get the feeling these shoes aren't going to be available to buy for a bit anyway and looking at the price tag, I think I'll just get the lace version for £55 less!
I cannot follow your statement about LS being notoriously narrow.
I have wide feet size 11 and I have always found LS's (after the Mirage http://www.vvv.ru/img/goods/2189.jpg) very comfy especially Miura, Speedster, Skwama, Viper, Cobra etc.
I had 2 pairs of the old Quantum and quite liked them even though the last is strange and painful for my feet after a while which they share with most of 5.10s I have owned (except the old Anasazi pink).
They also get soft very quickly, especially in the middle. So: If you make them (Quantum) wider, add a bit of downturn and improve the flex in the middle you end up with a very good and performing allround slipper with velcro closures - something the Skwama does very well and what 5.10 has IMHO been lacking a bit lately. Hence my silly comment offending her majesty's shoespecialists.
I'd agree that La Sportiva is generally quite narrow. The PD75 last (Muira, futura, skwama, etc) are better for my wider feet but still notably narrow in the toe region. Very pointy.
If you're going to compare the Quantum VCS to any shoe in the La Sportiva range, then surely it's the Muira VS or the Otaki? I had the old Quantum lace (purple) and the new version (blue) is essentially a new shoe. It's built on a new, wider last and the rubber and midsole that have been used are much stiffer. I can roll my skwamas up in my hand whereas the quantum lace are a stiff shoe. The Skwama is a single strap, soft slipper with lots of toe rubber.
Not doing this for the sake of arguing but if there's info in the comments section it should be accurate for customers sake.
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