In reply to G1000:
Thanks for the replies.
I ordered a ME Citadel thinking that it might be ok for abroad where it's colder and UK as I get cold in the mountains when I stop, even in summer! But wasn't expecting it to be so mega, don't think it could be used in the UK unless we had arctic conditions. Think it's a no go.
I currently am now trying on Rab Generator Alpine. It's more substantial than I thought. Think it would be ok as a spare for winter UK when I get cold at stops and good for colder countries. It was £104, is this a good price?
I'm a medium in Rab (and others) but got that plus a large as thought I might need it to enable me to wear it over lots of layers. I think they already designed it for this as it's pretty big.
I am not a mad fan of Rab fit tbh, i'm a girl and the upper half and waist can be bit roomy in the medium but also not very accomodating for hips. It's just about ok tho but I wouldn't use the drawstring things on the hips. It tends to annoy me and I like more width at the hips so I can draw it in or have it loose, I prefer to have the choice. The large is nice and roomy for hips and can use the drawstring if I want but big on the arms and waist (generally quite roomy all over!).
Not sure what to go for and what I might wear under it. I tried both over a base layer, a Rab Vapour Rise and a waterproof shell. Both seem ok... the large is still roomy on hips (will draw in with drawstrings aswell) and all over really and could definately fit another top underneith. Not sure if large would work well as a warm layer if it's too big tho. The medium is ok but i'd not want another layer underneith. Not really sure i'd wear more than a baselayer, something like the vapor rise and a shell tho :/
Any thoughts on fit? I always go for mens as i'm 6 foot, prefer the longer cut and like the sleeves hanging over my hands so I can hide them away if it's really cold.
plus the vapour rise I have here but not worn yet is good in medium (other than annoying hips) but I can't really fit more than a baselayer under it. Is it designed for more layers underneith? The large was way too big everywhere.
Thanks