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Hi

Can anyone out there point me in the direction of any multi-sport helmets?

Ideally looking for mountain bike, climbing and kayaking?

Looked around and don't seem to get mtb and climbing together?

Any help appreciated from you all

In reply to Tonyfryer: This was asked a few months ago here. Have you run a search ?

Andy

In reply to Tonyfryer:

I've got a camp silver star good for most sports

In reply to Tonyfryer:

Salewa Krypton or helium...

www.salewa.com

... the only CE certified all rounders that I'm aware of.
The main issue is a lot of kayaking and cycling helmets have venting holes in the top which in a climbing situation could let sharp falling nasties from above cause serious damage.

Ben

In reply to Tonyfryer:
Salewa Krypton...

In reply to Andy Manthorpe:

Yes did a quick search and couldn't find so thought I would post.

A further bit of digging showed me the Kong Scarab. Has anyone got any thoughts on that compared to the salewa helmets?

Cheers for the help so far. Liking the Salewas as well as the kong one.

Strange that there does not seem to be more multi-sport helmets as it seems that people tend to do a lot more than one activity if they are outdoors types.

In reply to Tonyfryer:

Cheers for the info on the Kong helmet. I'd not found that in my hunting. It looks pretty good.
I climb, paddle and cycle and am looking for a new helmet for all 3. I'm currently using a battered old canoeing helmet that needs to be retired.
Selewa Krypton is my first choice. Andy Kirkpatrick recommends these in this months Climb...maybe go out and pick up a copy... very cool visor as well. They do seem a little difficult to find in UK stores though. I've only found needlesports.co.uk at £80 so far. Anyone else seen them cheaper in the UK?

Ben

In reply to all:

Two questions:
i) Would a cycling helmet be ok for horse riding, I thought yes as same sort of potential fall?

And
ii) Will using a climbing helmet for caving damage it? It'd get a lot of knocks as I'm a clunky novice caver who never seems to know where the top of her helmeted head stops.

In reply to gingerkate:



are cycling helmets designed for horses to stand on them? no.

In reply to Brand:
Ah. Hadn't thought about that, only about falling off!
Cheers

In reply to StudioBen:

good thread on sleepmonster.com about multisport helmets. Where I found out about others.

Check out www.telemark-pyrenees.com and www.planetfear.com. These are the only ones I managed to find. Both cheaper than £80 though.

In reply to Tonyfryer:

Cheers Tony. £80 for a helmet that does all 3 is pretty good and in the grand scheme of things, you can't put a price on saving your life. I can't understand why people wouldn't wear one.

Kate.... I think very few cycling helmets are up to a good whack from an angry horses hoof!
Also... most helmets are designed to absorb the energy of an impact by deforming slightly (or a lot depending on the impact!!!). Every time you knock a helmet you weaken it and reduce it's ability to absorb a serious impact. This effect is pretty minor for a few knocks while caving but is something to be aware of. All helemts should be retired after a period or a serious impact.
Having said that, I'm still using an old canoeing helmet which has been whacked off many a rock (holds head in shame!!!!)... but I am investing in a new one!

Ben

In reply to StudioBen:

Fully agree £80 is okay in grand scheme as it saves you buying 2 or 3 helmets and can save your life. Just if the same helmet is cheaper elsewhere why not save the bucks.

Doing open adventure races which involve running, mtb'ing, caving, absailing and kayaking. Alternative is to drag 3 different helmets with me so is worth the extra money just for that.

In reply to Tonyfryer: Do you use a helmet for all three equally? I ride most days so don't begrudge at all having just a normal cycling helmet, and keeping my climbing helmet for just climbing. Cycling helmets are cheap these days.

In reply to TobyA:

no I don't use equally at all. I have seperate helmets that I use at the moment which I will continue to use as and when needed.

Just handy to be able to use 1 helmet if you do multiple sports. As mentioned next event I am going to do involves multiple sports and you have to carry all kit with you so the alternative would be to carry 3 helmets at all times which really isn't practical.

In reply to Tonyfryer:

maybe five helmets, Motorcycle, bicycle, climbing, canoeing, caving,

In reply to StudioBen:

They may have changed them since I bought mine three years ago, but the label in my Helium doesn't include the EN standard number for canoeing. Needlesports web site suggests that it is only certified for climbing and cycling. The Krypton, on the other hand, they say is certified for horse riding as well. The Salewa web site itself doesn't seem to have much of any practical use to say on the subject.

In reply to TobyA:

Nice to be able to cycle to the crag and have one less thing to carry in the bag though.

Of course, an important viewpoint is that if the multisport helmet is your only one, and it takes a whack when (say) you fall off your bike, then you have to (say) climb helmetless

I'd been looking into this a year or two back, I kind of liked the LOOK of the Kong Scarab (I am so shallow!) but it didn't seem to be readily available in the UK at that time.

I don't do multisport but I need a new bike helmet and it might be nice to have a second climbing helmet for if I take someone out, now that I have ropes and rack.

In reply to Martin W:

Oh great, so the Krypton does everything I need. Cheers for that info.

In reply to Tonyfryer:

Perfectly sensible then! I'm just too lazy to cycle to crags! I'm tempted by one of those grivel one which is both a climbing and skiing helmet. That would be useful.

My house has a number of ridiculous number of helmets in it already,

A cycling helmet
A summer climbing helmet (Petzl meteor)
A winter/mountain helmet (Petzl Elios)
A skiing helmet
My missus' cycling helmet
her climbing helmet,
cycling helmets for two kids

Having one helmet each would be a nice idea.

In reply to Tonyfryer:

I'm new to climbing and was looking for a multi sport helmet, found this one, it's the Pulse range by Protec.

http://www.pthelmets.com/products.asp?cat=34

Any feedback on this would help

Many thanks

Superstes

In reply to Blue Straggler:
Tis a good point! If you are just going to cycle or climb it would be better to use a single use helmet as it would be cheaper to replace but that then means even more helmets lying around the house.

Then again, honest answers here. Who actually replaces helmets when they should?

In reply to Tonyfryer:


I took quite a heavy fall over the handlebars of my bike last summer. Landed on the top of my head and felt quite stunned and dizzy afterwards. There has been quite a lot of discussion and criticism of bike lids here over the last year or so, but I really don't want to think how much that would have hurt if I hadn't had my helmet on.

Anyway, went to the supermarket the next day and bought an identical replacement model. Crushed the old one and chucked it in the dustbin.

I think for most people its probably reasonably obvious the difference between a strike where a helmet is just doing what it should do day in day out, and when it probably should be binned. I ice climb all winter so my winter helmet tends to have bits of ice clonk off it most days out, but that's what its there for. If I took a substantial ground fall and ended up hitting my head - I'd probably bin it.

In reply to TobyA:

A few years back my son ... he'd have been about 9 ... took a bad fall off his bike, landed right on his head which was clad in a Skin skateboarding helmet. He was in a lot of pain and nauseous, but basically ok. The helmet was very visibly a write off ... having done its job, thank goodness.

In reply to gingerkate:

I was 32 I think. Clearly some of us get no wiser as we get older.

Now the snow has melted, my oldest (nearly 3) is now whizzing about on his little bike. He has a helmet and we tell him to wear it, then when he gets off to play on the swings or whatever I tell him to take it off (scary stories of children strangling themselves playing whilst wearing helmets - thanks Rob Naylor for making me more paranoid!), then put it back on when he get back on his bike.

I didn't have a bike helmet until I was 19 and moved to Glasgow. I wonder if I'm destroying his spirit of adventure and all those Nietzschean qualities of heroism and bravery?! I took him climbing at the weekend, and he seems to be quite into wearing a climbing helmet and his harness though!

In reply to Tonyfryer:
I've replaced my cycle helmet after the following:
Dropped off a table
Whacked in head by lorry wing-mirror
Dropped when trying to place on coat hook
5 years with no knocks- I had a look and saw a hairline crack, flexing the helmet showed a crack all the way across the crown!

Moral: check the integrity of your helmet regularily even if you haven't (apparently) hit it!

Ade