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 andy 11 Sep 2004
Will be in lancaster for a night at the end of the month with a mate from work, and as it's about 22 years since I left school there I'm a bit out of touch!

Any recommendations as to where to eat/drink/be merry? Is the Sugarhouse still going? Be interesting if it is, as we're both NUS members (it used to be NUS members only, iirc) again 10-20 years after leaving Uni due to a course we're on through work!

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 Matt_b 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: Sugarhouse is NUS only. Waterwitch down on the canal is a good spot.
 Adam Lincoln 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Brooks. Its right up your street, you will love it
 Matt_b 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Adam Lincoln: Urgh.
 Adam Lincoln 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Matt_b:

Shuush
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Adam Lincoln: I went to Brooks when it was posh, I'll have you know (about 1985, iirc). It went crap whilst we still lived there, so if it's continued to deteriorate it must be absolutely dire now.

Sugarhouse it is then - we might be old, but we're both fully fledged NUS members (quite useful, actually - you get into the rugby at Leeds half price and there's quite a few shops that offer discount - feels a bit cheeky asking, but what the hell?). Didn't they used to have quite a lot of trouble at Sugarhouse with locals finding it a useful source of concentrated students so they didn't need to go looking round town for someone to assault?
 Matt_b 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: Nah problems have gone now, security are pretty good. What night are you going to be there? Because it's going to be shut until the start of new term (25th), and then on Saturday and Friday nights it will probably be sold out (you'll have to queue for ages outside with one in one out).
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Matt_b: Thursday 30th - so should be ok by the sound of it.
 Matt_b 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: It's privately hired by some of the colleges for freshers stuff all week. Looks like it's gunna have to be Brookes.
 Greenbanks 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Lancaster's full of oiks. Stay at home and watch the box.
Andyhob 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Greenbanks:

Absolutely. I used to go out there quite a bit but I've since realised it's actually pretty rubbish and ridiculously expensive. Stick with Ulverston, at least you can get a half decent pint there!
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Andyhob: Ulvie's a bit far away - playing one of my 3 times a year games of golf Thursday pm, then out for a few beers - then back to work on Friday morning, so Ulverston's a bit far.

Must say, Ulverston doesn't seem as good a night as it used to - but that's probably rose tinted specs syndrome. They managed to close Buffers yet?
 Jon Wickham 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Good pubs being Waterwitch as already mentioned and The Sun Inn (owned by the same people and does good food); The Gregson (good food) (walk east towards the Ashton Memorial, past the Dukes Cinema and over the canal). Also The Yorkshire House (next to the Sugarhouse), and The Vine (so I am told) on the south end of Penny Steet are good.

Clubs, I reckon the Sugarhouse is best but it won't be open until the last week in September and then only to freshers with a ticket as it will be fresher's week. Otherwise check out The Crypt, small with a much more ecletic music selection. It's on the road to the station, and under the Kings Arms Hotel opposite The Merchants pub (which is good and does cheap food). Revolution at the south end of Penny Street is not bad. Apart from that you have the choice of Toast or Liquid which are next door to each other and near the Sugarhouse. Both are equally carp IMHO.
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Jon Wickham: Cheers - staying at the Kings Arms, so the one near there might be a good bet.

Way back in my school days we used to drink in the Slip Inn, the magnificent Carpenters Arms and the Brown Cow. Lancaster Mountaineering Club used to meet in the Sun - apparently it's a bit more salubrious now than it was in theose days!
Andyhob 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Don't think so. Personally I don't see the point; all it would do would be to concentrate all the trouble stirring idiots into one place (clancys) rather than having them spread out a bit.

Agree with it not being as good as it used to be, although I can't put my finger on what's gone wrong. It's still better than lancaster though!
 Adam Lincoln 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Is the Kings Arms the one on the corner? If so, nice bar oppositeish called Revolution
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Andyhob: Have the 'ladies in comfy shoes' left the Hope yet? Always my favourite pub from when I was about 17.

I think it's the local residents who want Buffers closed - as if yobs pissing in their gardens wouldn't happen if they were walking back from town, as opposed to the station!

I think we'll give Lancaster a go (cos it's got to be better than Morecambe!) and I shall deliver my considered opinion.

Bit spoiled living in Skipton - Skipton's a pretty good night, several good pubs with 'flexible opening' in the dales and Leeds is accessible for a night out too. Whenever we go home we find it bizarre you have to book a taxi about a month in advance in Ulverston!
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Adam Lincoln: By the traffic lights on the corner of the road up to the station and the castle. Revolution a vodka bar? Part of a chain, I think - there's certainly one in Leeds and one in Bradford.
peter john 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: didnt they re name the carpenters arms about 10 years ago? went to ripley about 22 years ago my self but mainley went to tram ways ,carps arms, water witch :-0
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to peter john: Don't know - very long time since I've been out there. Barman called Malcolm with NHS glasses held together with sellotape a la Jack Duckworth!
 Adam Lincoln 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Aye, Vodka bar... We stayed in that b+b. Awesome brekkie in the morning.
peter john 11 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: good god thatis a long time ago do you remember the old woman that sat in the corner of the bar was she the owner or some thing, and isnt there as tunnel from there to the castel.
 Greenbanks 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Andyhob:

Hartleys or Mitchells???
OP andy 11 Sep 2004
In reply to Greenbanks: Hartley's every time for me - but as it's now Robinson's it's not quite the same.

My best ever student job was at the brewery - we used to finish about 1.30 every day and just go to the pub till clocking off time.
 jim robertson 12 Sep 2004
In reply to peter john:

The Carpenters did revert to its former name of The Three Mariners about ten years ago. Locally known as The Three Customers.
 jim robertson 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

If you are staying in The Kings Arms then have a pint in The John o' Gaunt. Its about fifty yds away and serves good pub food during the day.
Lancaster Mountaineering Club havent met in the Sun for donkeys. They moved on to The Golden Lion next to Dukes Playhouse. Meet every Thursday evening at about 9ish. Always used to go there before the Sugarhouse. Talking of which, I remember seeing Stoneroses, Happy Mondays, and Inspiral Carpets there all within the space of three weeks, Those were the days.
OP andy 12 Sep 2004
In reply to jim robertson: It was a good 20 years since a fresh faced Neil Foster and I, as wide eyed youths, used to go down to the Sun! I remember being astounded by the fact I was standing next to the famous (well we thought he was, anyway) Dave Knighton having a wee.

I know the John o' Gaunt - top of the pedestrianised bit, innit? Used to go in the Golden ion too, iirc. Blimey - this'll be a blast from the past!
 jim robertson 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Climbed a couple of times with Dave around 79 and 80. I was a real greenhorn then and remember very clearly him driving us to Giggleswick in his brown mk3 Cortina and me flicking through his guidebook and seeing the routes underlined that he had done. I wanted to go home! He also had a penchant for climbing in a kind of fibre-pile jumpsuit in bright red wearing womens tights underneath.
OP andy 12 Sep 2004
In reply to jim robertson: You must've been around the same time as Neil and I (we were in the 6th form at the time) - guy called Vic Odell, who's now the Treasurer of the CC, a lad called Keith with a Triumph Herald or something, Maurice somebody and Dave K are the people I can remember. People were asking after Dave a year or two back to invite him to the Black Pudding Dinner.
Rob Hatfield 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

I may be wrong but the last few yrs the sugarhouse was booked during freshers week but opened up of the fri and sat nights although tickets were on general sale they sold out v.quick, at the beginning of the week.

Avoid liquid, toast isnt too bad but it may be overrun on fri/sat, chicago rock isnt too bad, pub wise.. the waterwitch or the sun, not both on one night (a bit too samey) and the john o gaunt, merchants, brown cow (just been renovated last few mths), fibbers or paddy mulligans are all good

p.s. I think the mountaineers now meet on a thursday at 9pm in furness bar on campus not too sure though

HTH
Rob Hatfield 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:

Vodka revolution is now what used to be the alex, opposite the farmers arms by the canal
OP andy 12 Sep 2004
In reply to Rob Hatfield: "Vodka revolution is now what used to be the alex, opposite the farmers arms by the canal"

That up near Kentucky, where the one way sort of heads back into town?
 Jon Wickham 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy: Yep, that's Revolution.
 Jon Wickham 12 Sep 2004
In reply to Rob Hatfield:

Yep, the Mountaineers meet in Furness bar on campus at 9 on thursday. People off campuss usually meet in a different pub each week at the same time and people from campus join them later before going on to the shagga.
 Jon Wickham 12 Sep 2004
In reply to Jim Robertson: Had forgotten about the Ye Old John O Gaunt, another great pub, good live jazz as well.

About the Three Mariners, the Uni Hiking club did a campaign to keep it open which seems to have worked. Reckon it will turn into a trendy wine bar or summat as there have been loads of posh new flats built next door to it now.
 gungan 12 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:Bloody hell! This brings back some memories!I remember when the Alex was the Snooty Fox(or the Snotty Dog as we called it). Did most of my formative drinking in the Fat Scot and the Tramway with odd excursions to the Sugarhouse,the Brown Cow and the Waterwitch when it was new.Saddest day of my life when they turned the Scot into a bloody wine bar...
 jim robertson 13 Sep 2004
In reply to gungan:

The Fat Scot into a wine bar?!! It was virtually an institution! You must surely remember Wobbly John?
 jim robertson 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Jon Wickham:

> About the Three Mariners, the Uni Hiking club did a campaign to keep it open which seems to have worked. Reckon it will turn into a trendy wine bar or summat as there have been loads of posh new flats built next door to it now.

Maybe not. Before the flats there was Pyes Farm Foods and the stench was untrue. That was part of the reason most people didnt go near it. Possibly the residents might breath some life into what was the oldest pub in Lancaster, I wouldnt have thought the planning authorities would allow it to be changed too much.
 jim robertson 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Jon Wickham:

Surely you mean LUMC and not LCC! My memories of LCC prevent me from believing they would change pubs each week and meet up with LUMC before retiring to the Sugarhouse!
 Jon Wickham 13 Sep 2004
In reply to jim robertson: Erm LCC????
MarkM 13 Sep 2004
In reply to andy:
Lots of shite chain pubs in Lancaster these days mores the pity...
Still get a decent pint at the John O' Gaunt, Ring of Bells (opposite the cinema) or Brown Cow. Waterwitch (now tarted up) is good for food and beer. Lots of decent Indian and Italian restaurants too. Not too much to recommend after pubs shut I'm afraid - the Crypt is OK (opposite the merchants) if you don't mind hot and sweaty venues. Otherwise take your pick of 'trendy venues with crap music' - Liquid, toast or revolution or of course everyone's favourite Brookes International.

Enjoy
Rob Hatfield 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Jon Wickham:

Apparently LCC is the town club (i stand corrected cheers net)
Sorry i was refering to LUMC who meet on a thurs on campus.
Matt Pedley 13 Sep 2004
There are 2 Wetherspoons in Lancaster too, which lager drinkers will be pleased to know they now offer Kronenburg, Grolsch and San Miguel on tap. Bentley's Wine Bar is an alright place with San Miguel and Budweiser on tap. Waterwitch is a great pub, completely revamped a few years back. Merchants is good too and has BECKS by the pint!! and The Sun is also an excellent pub but gets packed at the weekends, great beer, far too small! Nastro Azzuro on tap, and some nice Rasberry Beer.

If your and beer drinker then can recommend all the above as nice pubs but can't say how good the ale is.

Revolution is a vodka bar chain place, but since it's at the oposite end of town from all the clubs it is quite good later on as it has a late licence and isn't stupidly busy.

Matt
gizmo 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Rob Hatfield:

> Sorry i was refering to LUMC who meet on a thurs on campus.

Or off campus, or wherever we reckon it'll be a good night. Our webpage (http://www.lancs.ac.uk/~lumc ) will generally let you know what we're up to (at least once I get around to updating it).

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Matt Pedley 13 Sep 2004
When I was in LUMC we used to always end up in Merchants eying up routes across the arch ways! Or doing discrete pull ups from your seat if you can find a nice jug above you!

Matt
 jim robertson 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Rob Hatfield:

Indeed the town club. Not particularly active in the usual clubby kind of way but they have a good hut and certainly have a history of various members being more than a tad prolific, both on the crags and the big hills. (Well they certainly used to be, i bumped into two of them in Nepal fairly recently.)
 Jon Wickham 13 Sep 2004
In reply to jim robertson: I had assumed that LCC meant Lancaster Climbing Club, however I had not heard of this club existing (despite trying to find out if there was one)until you mentioned it! Have you got any contact details for the club as I can't find any. Thanks
Rob Hatfield 13 Sep 2004
In reply to Matt Pedley:

Im not too sure but i think they got barred for doing just that!

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