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 Mr Harry 03 Dec 2008
Im trying to download some music from torrent sites, now ... some of the files download fully with no problems, while some will download to between 98.5% and 99.8% and then stop. Even if the download rate says it's still downloading, the percentage will not go any higher.

Any ideas? I'm using Bitcomet, and don't remember having such problems in the UK.

Cheers

Adam
 Jim3960 03 Dec 2008
In reply to Mr Harry: Try using Utorrent from Utorrent.com, never had that problem. Free to use/download and quite light on memory usage to.

Jim.
 Mike-W-99 03 Dec 2008
In reply to Mr Harry:

Its also possible that no-one sharing has 100% of the file and you need to wait for someone to seed it who has the whole file.

Personally I use Azureus (or whatever its called nowadays)
 robert-hutton 03 Dec 2008
In reply to Mr Harry:
I also use Utorrent, late evening when USA is awake.
Al4 03 Dec 2008
In reply to Mr Harry:

It could be a bad tracker, some fakes are put out and never get past 99% which corrupts it if its zipped. that or as suggested no one is seeding the final part
In reply to Mr Harry: You should be able to view the percentage of the torrent that other people in the swarm have. If no one has more than 99.7% then you're never going to get the whole thing - unless someone logs on who has the whole thing.
 icnoble 03 Dec 2008
In reply to Mr Harry: isn't what you are doing illegal!
 John_Hat 03 Dec 2008
In reply to icnoble:

Entirely depends what he is downloading. If its something out of copyright, or never copyrighted, or specifically freely distributed, and there's shedloads of all of the above, then no.

Even if the music is copyrighted, then its a real legal minefield. The one thing for certain is that **uploading** is illegal (and if you are downloading a torrent file then you are generally simultaneously uploading). Whether downloading for private use is illegal depends on where you live. In Canada, IIRC, its legal.

One thing it certainly isn't is theft, despite what the music industry say. Theft generally requires you to remove something from someone else's posession.

That's my understanding anyway.



 NickD 04 Dec 2008
In reply to John_Hat: It's intellectual property theft. Making a copy of something which you have no right to is still theft.
 Bruce Hooker 04 Dec 2008
In reply to NickD:
> (In reply to John_Hat) It's intellectual property theft. Making a copy of something which you have no right to is still theft.

Why is making a copy theft? You haven't taken anything from the other person.

Is recording a film on the telly with a video cassette theft? The film industry didn't say much about this when videos recorders became popular... and the tv company which broadcast the film have paid for the right to do this, so is this theft too?

 John_Hat 04 Dec 2008
In reply to NickD:

Sorry, you're wrong there. It may or may not be illegal but its covered under copyright law, not criminal law on theft.

IP legislation is also different from copyright legislation, and there is quite a big difference.

 John_Hat 04 Dec 2008
In reply to John_Hat:

To expand slightly, IP law is concerned with patents, you invent something, I rip it off and use it for commercial gain.

Theft is removing someone else's property without permission.

Copyright is to do with just that - the right to make copies. Technically you are breaching copyright by downloading a track to which someone else holds the copyright - you are making an unauthorised copy.

The music industry with its "downloading is stealing" is actually spouting total cr@p.

 Bruce Hooker 05 Dec 2008
In reply to John_Hat:

> The music industry with its "downloading is stealing" is actually spouting total cr@p.


Thank you for the clarification... I suspected they were but didn't know why.

No one any reply why recording a film shown on the telly with a VHS has always been tolerated, at least hasn't generated new laws and all the present fuss, whereas doing much the same by digital means is presented as if it put our very civilisation in peril?
 LiamDobson 05 Dec 2008
In reply to Bruce Hooker:

id guess its because in the modern time where any person with a computer and reasonable internet could get the whole box office top 10 films in a couple of days this has more of an impact them people recording movies onto vhs
 Bruce Hooker 05 Dec 2008
In reply to LiamDobson:

Possibly, but what about old films and music? I hardly ever listen to anything less than 30 years old

They'd do better making what they sell more attractive, including extras, imaginative packaging and so on than pissing off their potential customers... most people still go to see the films when they come out, and when you want to give present you're not going to give a copied dvd with hand written labels... every time I have to sit through several minutes of aggressive blurb before the film starts I swear to myself that I'm never going to buy a dvd again

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