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What is the definitive grade for Benign Lives at Froggat? I know Rockfax gives it E7 6c, but the Froggat guide gives it E6 6b. Which is more accurate?

In reply to Slab slapper:
E6/7 6b/c

Depends if you're tall, use mats, have a herd of spotters, etc. It's never been onsighted (to the best of my knowledge) au natural (ie properly with full landing consequences)

In reply to Jon Read: Did a pebble come off and change the grade, also I thought John Dunne dit it after that?

Stu

In reply to Stu Tyrrell: Possibly. I think there's some evidence of a missing pebble, but Graham Hoey or Paul Clark are more likely to know.

In reply to Slab slapper: e6 6b.probibly about f7a on a rope

In reply to Slab slapper: Proper E6 6b is fair, I think E7 is a little bit keen. I seem to remember it being fairly straight forward when I did it as a nipper. Just roped it through a couple of times and did it. However, to onsight it would be quite difficult as there are a couple of red herrings!

Joe Bawden did it after me and then some lad tried to onsight it but jumped off to the right. Sadly, it is just a boulder problem with a stack of matts.

Heard on the grapevine that it had been onsighted?

In reply to Arm Chair Critic:


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In reply to Slab slapper: That will be Kevin Thaw then.

In reply to Arm Chair Critic:
He is using the flake though, which is a lot easier, but perhaps less contrived, than going up the middle. I think Adam Long onsighted it like this around the same time.

In reply to Jon Read: Which moves are easier for the tall? Is it the reach for the break after the crux? I think you'd have to be quite short for that to be made significantly harder. None of the other moves are height dependent, are they? al

In reply to Aly: not hieght dependant at all.i dont seem to remember a crux on it,just 6b edges/smears.i know stiffer boots work better than soft boots though.
would be b6 if the landing was good