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I know this may have been covered - however I am flying to Mallorca next week with Ryanair and we have a weight restriction, anybody know if we can take quickdraws, rope, wires etc as hand luggage? Any feedback much appreciated, ta...

In reply to HappyTrundler:

Shouldn't be problem as long as it weighs less than 10 kgs and fits in a bag of the correct size.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/questions/what-items-are-prohibited-from-being-ca...

In reply to HappyTrundler: Done to death. Some get through with that stuff some dont.

In reply to HappyTrundler: http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=426029

In reply to mike_uk82: http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=283178

In reply to HappyTrundler: I took my ropes,shoes and harness as hand luggage. All of the metalwork went in the checked baggage. IMO its not worth the risk of trying to get all of the gear in as hand luggage and not getting through security.

In reply to mike_uk82:

Unless it's stansted. They're extremely pedantic there!! I got the top of my gillete fusion razor blade taken off my when i was travelling back to dublin. They were obviously afraid i was going to shave someone to death!

In reply to HappyTrundler: Just been to slovkia in the tatry mountains climbing.

you will have no trouble at all your bag will NOT get weighed, you could literally have a suitcase of iron and as for the hand bagage size the stewrdess actually stood on mine to get it into the little size check thing, the CBA with paperwork and late flights! happy days let me know how it goes!

D

In reply to rossjmc: No tweezers aloud onboard aircraft now


frankly if you can take over a 747 with a pair of tweezers you deserve the damn thing!!

D

In reply to rossjmc:

This always pisses me off - you can buy razors in Boots once you've passed the bag check!

To the OP: Ryanair enforce the hang-luggage size rule very very strictly. The last time I flew with them (which will hopefully be the last time ever) they forced several other passenger to check in (and therefore pay) hand-luggage that was even fractionally too big for the container.

RyanAir are a horrible horrible company.

In reply to Alun: By the looks of things on here it seems to be different at every airport!! very unfair.

OP

In reply to HappyTrundler: again for the *** Time, it is not the airline that is the problem.... it is security!

i came back from Schipol, the flight was late and we had 2 minutes to do a 15 minute walk, including security (weird airport!) and i didnt even have to take out my 3 bottles of duty free, my wash kit of get my sewing kit taken off me! they just scanned the bag, asked what the 3 large bottles were and waved me through!

In reply to HappyTrundler: Quick draws double as knuckle dusters !! Then you could tie the crew up with your 70m sport rope. You've got to love Liverpool airport !!

In reply to HappyTrundler:

Anyone know how this is likely to work on Air Asia? My luggage is now slightly overweight and I may need to move some metalwork into my hand luggage. Are they as demanding as Ryanair? All knowledge gratefully received.

In reply to HappyTrundler:

This has been done so so so many times. There is a search function for a reason.

The basic answer is that it's a bit of a lottery. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You are much better off putting anything that you are unsure of in the hold and carrying everything else in hand baggage (clothes, books, tents, boots, helmets etc.) If people can get to ice climbing venues with all their kit, then bolt clipping in the sun should be a doddle. A rope and basic rack plus QDs only weighs about 8kg. What else do you need to take?

In reply to HappyTrundler:

You really should be able to manage a Spanish climbing trip within the weight limit. I would expect to take one climbing bag between two checked in then each take a few clothes in hand baggage. If you are over the limit you are probably taking too much stuff.

In reply to Alun:

The last time I flew with them (which will hopefully be the last time ever) they forced several other passenger to check in (and therefore pay) hand-luggage that was even fractionally too big for the container.

So what is the problem with that ? that is what you sign up to when you agree to the terms and conditions when you buy the ticket.

In reply to gribble:

Read Little Brew's post 2 above yours.

In reply to HappyTrundler:
wouldnt take crampons or ice axes in hand luggage, never had issues with qd's or wires though. might be a little funny about hexes, but thats just a guess

In reply to HappyTrundler:
actually talking about this, i usually take a empty bottle in with me and fill it up from the taps, not too sure how clean the water actually is, so what do people think about taking a katadyn through security??

In reply to HappyTrundler:

If you take off all the carabiners and firmly tape them together with lots of packing tape to make one small heavy lump then it's hard to see what they could object to. I've done that twice now.

In reply to GrahamD:

There's no problem, and I agree it's what you sign up for - but the more you point out that they're horrible, hopefully it will convince people not to fly with them.

In reply to HappyTrundler: It's worth bearing in mind that there is very little consistency applied to this issue either between airports or airlines or even between trips and individual security personnel. The airline may have a published policy but it is not just the airline checking your hand baggage. After numerous trips and a broad range of experiences with just about every airline you can think of I now consider that it is just not worth taking the risk. The only thing I now carry in hand baggage is clothing, towels etc.

As an example of how varied things can be on one trip I got a rope through, my mate didn't. The only difference was he went through a different security gate.

Ryan air are stricter than most. It's not worth the hassle or risk.

Al

In reply to HappyTrundler:
As stated by some, and ignored by others, it is nothing to do with the airline. They can (and sometimes do) weigh or measure your hand luggage to make sure it's within their limits, but it's not until you go through security that the bag is X-rayed/searched, and by then it's irrelevant which airline you're travelling by.

Ryanair is no worse than anyone else - there are probably more problems reported with them simply because more people travel with them (everybody complains about how crap they are, but they're also cheap and go where we want so we still use them!)

I've seen rope and harness being disallowed, and heard of problems with wires. It's not worth the risk - if you're challenged then you've got no way of disagreeing, you have to check in the offending items as hold baggage, for a suitably huge fee.

In reply to HappyTrundler:

It is a complete lottery, just come back from Germany.
Manchester: 3kg over (£36 please!)
Bonn: 8kg over (smile & have a nice flight!)

Took helmets & shoes in hand luggage.
(DMM rope bag, looks small, would gobble up a tardis & more).
Not worth risk of losing any shiny gear & a rope would have to be a no-no.

(Managed to get 42kg hold luggage, plus 3 items of hand luggage, from Peru to Madrid a few years back, then missed connecting flight & had to pay a King's ransom to Sleazyjet).

Have a good trip.

In reply to Alun:

They made my 9 year old daughter put her wee handbag into her luggage and my wee boy aged 4 put a small bag of toys into his.. While we were doing this people kept getting on the plane and we almost didn't get a seat together...

They are W**kers

E

In reply to HappyTrundler: On the way out to Spain the Ryanair staff were inforcing the size of handluggage rules. On our way back they weren't stopping anyone as they had 12mins to get a full plane off the tarmac before the French airtraffic controlers were going to refuse to let us fly for at least another 2 hours.

A good tip other than don't take so much stuff is that there is no restriction on the size or weight of your jacket. You can get a lot of stuff in the pockets of a gortex jacket.

I have got onto a flight for a winter trip wearing my plastic boots, carrying my gortex and down jackets (pockets full of clothes) and a large but soft bag that would squash into the handluggage box thing. Got off plane having changed into trainers and put coats in bag. Bag now about 60litres and larger than my hold bag which was full of all the ropes and metal wear for winter climbing.

Why are people surpised when they have to pay excess baggage or are not allowed to bring their bags onboard the aircraft because they are "oversized"??
It specifically states before you book, the checked in baggage allowance, cabin baggage allowance and dimensions.
If you didn't bother reading that it's also stated in the itinerary or booking confirmation you are sent.
Yet people still turn up with bags that clearly don't fit the required dimensions. So what do you expect??