In reply to hbeevers:
> Interesting to hear that other Salomon's are better than the speedcross... Do they use different rubber?
> The speedcross are great in mud but downright treacherous, elsewhere. I nearly ended up face first in a pond running at Ilkley so promised myself to look at alternatives.
> Inov8s fit me well but the VJ XTRMs look as good for grip with more durable uppers...
Don’t think so, but they do all have different tread patterns which I find does make a difference in rock - the tread pattern on the Speedcross doesn’t lend itself well to a large amount of surface area of rubber on ground when it’s solid underfoot, in contrast to something like the Sense Pro with significantly smaller lugs. Still far from perfect on wet rock, but I’ve personally never found a running shoe that is, having tried Inov8, La Sportiva, Adidas, Brooks and Scarpa alongside Salomons over the years.