In reply to Nee: I quite playing the helmet game several years ago. I use my skateboard helmet for ice climbing, rock climbing, snowboarding, skiing and would use it for skateboarding if I had one. It fits great, looks kool (major bonus) covers what needs covering. You can't take climbing helmets seriously after petzel came out with that piece of crap foam thing that floats around on the top of your head. I have heard the sales pitches given to kids parents about the diffrence between a ski helmet and a snowboarding helmet and why they need to have both.