In reply to stonewall: Always been the same with crap & ribish. The polish that just our overuse of teh site.
Was in Gandia in May & the place was like a toilet then.
There are much better places that are not in the book and the locals do not like to use them as the walks can be abit long for them 40-50 min approaches, just be prepared to share them with German/French Climbers.
Now where were they!