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gents,
i like to wear in normal winter conditions (uk)a buffalo(type) jacket alone (base layer if really cold)for the majority of the day with my shell for belays and if we stop for snap etc.
interested what systems others use (personal choice i know)?
anyone wear shell and put on insulation jacket @ belays etc ?
jas

In reply to jas wood:

Personally:
merino baselayer, very thin microfleece, eVent shell.
Usually just walk in base and shell (acts as windproof and is breathable enough for this) and put microfleece on if it's very cold. I carry a synthetic duvet jacket for stops and belays.
I've tried other layering systems, softshell tops etc, but this is the one that works best for me.

In reply to jas woo0d:

Last year in Cairngorms:

Pro Wool Helly
Rab VR
Mountain Equipment fleecy trousers

Down jacket on when I was belaying.
Didn't feel need for anything else, apart from belaying I dind't spend a right lot of time standing around.

Found that staying dry when climbing was bigger challenge than keeping warm when moving.

In reply to jas wood: Most folk wear too much on the hill. Unless its its mega severe weather, I walk in with just a base layer, powerstretch leggings, and thiny gloves. I sweat like rapist in the dock walking in with all my winter gear. When I get to the bottom of the route, I put on XCR bottoms, dry base layer, power stretch top, and event shell. I always carry duvet jacket for belays. This works well even high up in the alps in winter.

In reply to jas wood: smart wool top and boxers, mixmaster pants, micro fleece and pertex on the walk in. then add a patagucci readymix jacket (big hooded softshell) for actual climbing. DAS parka for belaying. would possible layer something like a pile jacket or micropile jacket in betwen the pertex and the ready mix if it was colder.

In reply to jas wood: When you say 'a snap' do you mean another shot of whisky or a photo? If it's the former as i suspect, having climbed with you, then you won't need much else to keep you warm.

In reply to jas wood:

Cold Weather (Usual)
Walking in:
Helly
Ronnies
Skinny gloves
Buff on head

Climbing:
Add a buffalo, schoeller trs and maybe even paclite pants. Synthetics or even down duvet for the cold.

Warmer, end of season weather:
Walk-in just the same but more sweat.
Climbing: Softshell top and bottoms with hard shell top and trs at the ready.


Be ready for Norrie to state that he wears jeans and a wooly jumper and has never been cold...

In reply to hindu:

You should pay more attentions to my posts in future. I posted this on 21 November 2006 on a similar topic - "My layers are a Berghaus Xstatic top, a Montane Zero jacket, a Rab VT smock and a Montaine Extreme jacket (not a smock)."

I do have old fashioned Axes and Crampons, as I don't climb the routes you do.

In reply to Norrie Muir:
bet you still use dachstiens mitts tho norrie ?

In reply to Will1: ACTUALLY ! i said "snap" not "a snap" which is a term for bait/food (mining phrase i believe) so there !!

how you doing mukka been getting anything done ?
not been out at all yet (winter climb)and getting itchy ! you,ll have to drag me up something in the not to distant future (if you don,t mind !) i,ll mail you when/IF ! suitable conditions arise.
jas-sick as a pig at work.

In reply to Norrie Muir:

"You should pay more attentions to my posts in future"

You arrogant t**t

Maybe UKC should add another forum "Norie Says" so you can enlighten us all.

In reply to Anonymous: Good one!!! lol

In reply to Anonymous:


Maybe UKC should have a spellchecker to help Anonymous posters.

In reply to Norrie Muir:

To be grammatically correct; spell checker is two words not one.

In reply to Anonymous:

See http://www.oup.co.uk/ep/cdroms/spellchecker/

Of course, you know better. You are so great, you can't even remember your own name.

In reply to Anonymous:

You should pay more attentions to your own posts in future.

In reply to Norrie Muir:

What's it like to be Scotlands best known "second" ?

In reply to Anonymous:

With posts like that, no wonder you remain anonymous. What's it like to be UKC's most poisonous/cowardly poster?

You do like your smartalec posts, the trouble is with you, you snipe with a boomerang.

In reply to Norrie:

Whats the montane zero jacket, can´t find anything on google... An insulating warm jacket, or a VR like thing?

I always wonder how people 'pop on a belay/down jacket on when belaying', I can imagine that on Stanage, but not when you´re halfway up a gully in Scotland, standing on a tiny ledge in typical Scotting conditions.

I mean, I cannot imagine climbing in my puffy down jacket (I have a Fjällraven polar jacket), nor putting it back in its stuffsack really, as I need to be able to roll it somehow. Not stuffing it means that it takes as much room as a small bus.
So how does this work, do people do silly things with taking on and off jackets halfway up long climbs, or do they just climb in their belay jacket?

In reply to Arjen:

The Montane Zero jacket is a thin, synthetic belay jacket, but warm. I don't know if they make them anymore.

I put all my clothing on at the start of the climb and only take any layer off after the climb or when I get back down. Others waste their time putting jackets off and on.

In reply to Arjen: i personally climb with a insulated pertex number and use my shell as a belay jacket which when i come to a belay and i,m safe goes straight on till i,m moving again.However most people do things the other way round i.e a warm (buffalo type) number for the belays and climb with the shell on.

do SOME people pull on jackets half way up a climb- yes
jas

In reply to Norrie Muir:

In reply to Anonymous:

You are actually quite funny, is that intentional?