In reply to Wile E. Coyote: From what I have researched in to, and asked many questions on here, is that u obviously need protein for muscle growth and repair and the general consensuses it to get this from natural food sources. Chicken is very lean and eggs are a good source ect. Rather than drinks supplements. One of my friends I go to the gym with takes protein supplements, I do not - just eat shit loads which is far more fun in my opinion and there is not much difference between the two of us (both of similar build and strength). I do have to run a bit more as I take in more fat. As long as you have a health diet you should be fine with out supplementing. Work out how much protein u take in your diet. I aim to eat about 1.5 grams to every kilogram of my body weight. Much more and you will be a body builder in no time (too much weigh gain) or you will waste it all by going to the toilet! If you already take enough protein, you do not want to be wasting your money of supplements that you simply flush down the toilet! Any other supplements such as creatin cause you to bulk up and you do not want this as it has a negative effect of climbing, you need to be strong but light and flexible. There are a lot of people of this forum who will offer there advice!