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Hardest Summer Rock Route that has a legit Winter Ascent

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 stevez 08 Jan 2010
Under the current ethics guidlines for winter climbing in GB, what would be the hardest rock route that has had a legitimate winter ascent, and what/where is it?
 petestack 08 Jan 2010
In reply to stevez:

The Hurting, E4, Fiacaill Buttress, Coire an t-Sneachda?
OP stevez 08 Jan 2010
In reply to petestack:

That's unbelievable!
 Andy Nisbet 08 Jan 2010
In reply to stevez:

I climbed the crux pitch of The Israelite on Creag an Dubh Loch in 1980, as the start of Goliath. That's E5.
 French Erick 08 Jan 2010
In reply to Andy Nisbet:
Was it iced up though
 Andy Nisbet 08 Jan 2010
In reply to French Erick:

Just the odd smear.
OK, down the whole pitch, and ice screw runners.

But from the rumour mill, E4 is a warm-up.
 Andy Nisbet 08 Jan 2010
In reply to petestack:
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> The Hurting, E4, Fiacaill Buttress, Coire an t-Sneachda?

Was it iced up though

 petestack 08 Jan 2010
In reply to Andy Nisbet:
> But from the rumour mill, E4 is a warm-up.

Thinking jackal-headed gods, mummification, the afterlife and 'tunnel vision'... or is that too cryptic?

 Mike Lates 08 Jan 2010
In reply to stevez: Hung Drawn and Quartered was E4 when Martin and Nick left the ground but only E3 afterwards because Martin subsequently downgraded the summer route. Slightly strange because his initial thoughts were possibly winter IX but opted for hard VIII. Ian Parnell rated it as harder than The Secret last week. My guess is the shear number of chockstones make E4 seem unfeasible.
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