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 crustypunkuk 23 Nov 2010
I found some brand new Stubai Hornet Protect ice axe/hammers on German Ebay for 63 euros apeice, with uk postage for 10 euros.
That seems like the bargain of the century to me! Anyone had any experience with stubai gear? Any suggestions as to why they are so cheap?
Thinking that santa may pay a visit there for me!
In reply to crustypunkuk: They are cheap because they are a single piece fixed head design which is straightforward and hence cheap to manufacture.

They are perfectly workable ice tools, no more, no less. Had plenty of students using them when I've been instructing and they do the job.

As an economic option for getting on Scottish grade III routes they will do brilliantly. The same applies to most UK routes up to grade V as well as moderate alpine routes and easy cascades. They won't be amazing on cascades much past WI4+ but you can't have everything.

For low/mid grade UK winter climbing whether you have basic or top-notch axes doesn't make much difference. However UK climbers' preoccupation with gear is normally inversely proportional to experience so when it comes to basic gear like this many climbers I've met will rapidly start obsessing that the reason they aren't climbing vastly harder is they don't have the latest and shiniest gear.

If you're aiming to potter around on classic easier routes are not one to worry that your kit is only adequate rather than vastly capable then they'll certainly do the job without breaking the bank.
 Jamie B 23 Nov 2010
In reply to crustypunkuk:

They're very light, dont generate a swing naturally, and aren't ergonomic so you cant use them leashless. OK for getting started (if you want to fanny around with leashes) but ultimately quite limiting.
 Flashy 23 Nov 2010
In reply to crustypunkuk: I tried a pair briefly and hated them. Depends what you want to do with them though -- for Scottish 2/3 they won't hold you back in the slightest.
 Rampikino 23 Nov 2010
In reply to crustypunkuk:

If you do a search you will find a few previous posts around the Hornets - quite a divisive topic for some people.

They are cheap but they are functional - I had a pair and got on really well with them. I used them as a springboard to newer axes and sold them for £50 second hand.

Enjoy.
 gethin_allen 23 Nov 2010
In reply to crustypunkuk:
As standard they feel a bit rubbish to swing but if you slightly modify the profile of the pick with a file and add a bit of weight to the head by bolting some washers or Lead to it they feel a lot better. For ~£65 I doubt you'd find much better and they'd do you fine for easy stuff.

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