In reply to Niels:
> (In reply to fire_munki)
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> Really good toe, really shit heel.
I disagree, its not the shoe's heel thats shite, its your heel that doesn't fit it. all the shoes are essentially identical, we humans are inherently all unique so what fits one man isn't going to fit another the same.
I think they are an excellent shoe for steep bouldering and sport climbing I wouldn't recommend them for cragging at stanage etc!