In reply to jeremyingham:
I've got both the Vapours and Instincts and whilst the Vapours look down turned to start with I found they quickly become pretty flat (but comfortable and last much longer than other boots I've had).
I really rate the instincts, they're a bit downturned without being painful. I usually need lower volume shoes so they could be what you're after. Other suggestions would be La sportiva solutions or Evoov Shamans but I've not any personal experience of those.