In reply to john arran: well i meant as an enforced retreat to wrap some tape arpund a suitable anchor(s) and tying one of these rings on and pass the rope through it, that would save loosing a more expensive gear such as a locking karab.
i agree about leaving litter, i always pick up rubbish, but a length of nylon and a small ring up in the crag isnt much of a hazzard or eyesore
im just banding ideas around, as a noob ive got a lot to learn about everything