In reply to danm:
> Well now you know, next time it will be easy to ask at the crag "Is car X yours, if so you need to move it, cheers."
It's never easy to confront people, if that's not your bag, and for many of us it isn't.
> To me the website is obviously saying take your draws out before you go home.
The article linked is ambiguous with parking and with the draws situation (between attempts?). And whether they should or not, it isn't happening so something needs to change.
> That wasn't my dislike btw !
I don't care. Not playing to the crowd, just trying to be constructive. I hate Kilnsey anyway, too steep and I can't get up anything. Might ease my mind if access is banned.