In reply to J1234:
> Lets get this straight. You should not leave valuable and easy to sell items such as climbing gear on display in an unattended car anywhere. That this happened at Carrefour Benidorm, is a Red Herring and implies you could leave gear on display at Escalat at Tremp or Tesco in Glossop.
Jeez, Sam's not implying anything. She's trying to help folk. Maybe you need to heed her next sentence:
> Crazy I know but they thought that would be safe.
If I remember correctly, she's posted on this theme a while back - again trying to help people. A friend of hers' and mine had a very nasty experience in Carrefour Benidorm - and others have lost stuff. You really do need to be careful there. It's not a Red Herring - it's a Black Spot (am indulging your liking for capitals).
Conversely I've always felt very safe indeed at the Orange House. One incident in 14 years ain't going to change my feelings about that. As Sam says, Rich was straight on to it and the bad guys got nabbed. So nothing bad actually happened and something good did happen. It's a result.
In fact the worst ordeal I've ever had around the Orange House is getting the earnest and deeply well-meaning lecture from young Swedish climbers on why trad is ethically superior. It seems churlish to point out that they've come to Spain for some sunny bolt clipping and/or I've been bumbling along at trad for much longer (eek, twice as long!?) as they've been alive.
Toujours la politesse! (As we say in Barnoldswick.)
Mick