In reply to Ross o’Brien:
The Dutch/German army surplus stuff is identical or maybe the same. Feels the same. Not the double pile but the stuff with a pile on the inside and an outer that soon fluffs up. I so miss my old jumper. I am sure it was called the Lumberjack but maybe wrong. Bump flap, short zip, thumbloops but no knitted cuffs wheich hold water. Bought in effect, inside out as you wore them fluffy side in. Must have been a reversable zip?
Best kit ever.
Still use the pile salopettes. They were a thing!