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Possibly not a Rocktalk topic but I noticed that the article about Christmas books (great to see Climbing Days in the list) has a copyright ChatGPT notification. Is this the future of journalism?

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 timparkin 20 Dec 2024
In reply to Trevor Langhorne:

It's in use for the composite of the six books at the top of the image. I personally don't see a problem (and I'm a graphic designer and writer). But I understand some people's issues with it. 

My logic is this - if you pass a job onto a professional graphics design agency, one of the first things most do is to create a mood board of some sort, a pinterest compilation of possible styles etc. These 'styles' will be screenshots of various sources (copyright!) from the internet. Once the client has chosen one of these as 'like what they want', a graphic designer will be tasked to do something like the copyright work but adapted for the client. 

Only if you're paying a lot of money to a high end graphic designer to design something 'clean room' will you receive something free of copyright influence (or, like many massive companies that get sued year on year, something actually composited from the copyright originals - see Stranger Things - https://petapixel.com/2018/09/18/photographer-sues-netflix-for-using-his-st...)

ChatGPT and the like use 'influence' in a less 'rip off' way than most design agencies. (I know there are some designers and design agencies that work as original as possible, but the influences from copyright work are still there). 

In reply to timparkin:

Thanks Tim, I have no particular view one way or the other, just wondered what it had been used for.

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 Gary Gibson 21 Dec 2024
In reply to Trevor Langhorne:the New South Wales guide by Rockfax 

 nastyned 21 Dec 2024
In reply to Trevor Langhorne:

Hang on, so ChatGPT, which is famously ignoring copyright, is itself claiming copyright? Something doesn't sound right there. 

 ablackett 21 Dec 2024
In reply to Trevor Langhorne:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/publications/other_publications/christmas_b...
 

That does feel a bit odd? ChatGPT is a language model, I know it can handle images and such now, but as I understand it ChatGPT hands these off to other models, so surely the copyright is OpenAI or Dali-E or whoever owns the model which made the image?
 

 Niall_H 21 Dec 2024
In reply to ablackett:

> surely the copyright is OpenAI or Dali-E or whoever owns the model

Maybe UKC's applying a bit of Roko's Basilisk insurance and getting on the good side of the software early

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 ablackett 21 Dec 2024
In reply to Niall_H:

https://chatgpt.com/share/676739f7-2aec-800b-b5d2-9093ddc2eb47
 

I needed some help understanding that one.


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