In reply to Anonymous:
>bear in min sellers was done F8c at least, and E9. I don't think arran could match that
JA’s done E10 if you allow Dr Doolittle at that grade (and I don’t know any reason not to), and at least The Zone at E9 (again if you allow the grade, and I know there are murmurings). Also has a very decent on-sighting and adventure climbing record; not sure Nic S could match that although I expect he’s done a lot more than one’s heard about.
Wouldn’t have thought JA’d done 8c, tho’ I may be wrong, but then I don’t think that’s his game, tho’ I could be wrong there too.
Call it a draw, perhaps?