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 Iain Downie 12 Oct 2005
Anyone made their own?
How sucessful was it?
What did you use?
Did it affect the colour?
Any tips/advice?

Iain
Hotbad Peteel 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie:

The usual stuffs called kuvar. You can make it with sharp sand in the paint but i've never used it. You can also buy yacht deck high friction paint which is similar
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 Philip 12 Oct 2005
I heard of people mixing sand and paint. I presume you need the right paint for the wall (gloss or emulsion) and well dried sand. What quatities I don't know.
 CJD 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie:

get in touch with Zoobizooretta from this site, as he does a lot of the painting for DR walls, and he might have some suggestions. IIRC it's got sand in it - my boyfriend works for DR too and I could ask him if you like?
Hotbad Peteel 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Philip:

you'd need a paint with sufficient adhesive properties to stick properly to the sand. You really need to be gluing the sand to the wal lwith the paint. Solvent and water based paints just leave paint on the surface after the solvent has evaporated out. Maybe have a look at 2 part paints
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OP Iain Downie 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Hotbad Peteel:

We have the sand from when the last part of our wall was painted. The guys who did that aren't around any more, managed to graduate and escape.

So im just really after proportions i think. Going to have a play later anyway before we start painting the wall. I've heard mixing a bit of PVA glue might be the answer. But ive also heard that the paint may change colour with the sand? Never done this before, hence seeking advice from those who have.

Iain
OP Iain Downie 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie:

If it helps, the paint is going straight onto 18mm ply. Already in place though, which makes painting it a pain.

Iain
 CJD 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie:

as I say, get in touch with someone who knows what they're doing like zoobizooretta.
OP Iain Downie 12 Oct 2005
In reply to CJD:

Probably the best option. I have horrible visions of a wall covered in horrible brown sticky gritty goo.

Cheers all,

Iain
 g taylor 12 Oct 2005
In reply to CJD:

Can you also ask for their hold recipes with specific ratios filler/resin/etc ;-P
 CJD 12 Oct 2005
In reply to g taylor:

ha, that's not what I meant, putting paint on walls isn't giving away massive trade secrets.
 zoobizooretta 12 Oct 2005
In reply to CJD:

no it ain't...
mailed him thou..
Tom Fuller 12 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: I tried it with emulsion and PVA, didn't work too well, just scrapes off. It works better with gloss, as it's "stronger", but still not great. I ended up buying some yacht deck paint, expensive but it was worth it.

Cheers,

Tom.
Smythie 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: Why not use tar?
Tom Fuller 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Smythie: That would be aid.

Cheers,

Tom.
djviper 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: what about mixing the sand with something like marine varnish? that would penatrate the wood and seal in the sand
 Escher 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Tom Fuller: Garage floor paint from B & Q was recommended to me and it works great, it probably is very similar to yacht deck paint but a lot cheaper. It is evil stuff though and takes an age to dry
 CJD 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie:

for future reference, RD says it's just masonry paint mixed with builder's sand.

no rocket science involved
 Dave Stelmach 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: I made some by mixing sharp sand with some of that grey floor paint (e.g.Sandtex); it worked fine, but the sand tends to escape eventually. Some of the rubberised exterior wall paints may be better at keeping it in.
Anonymous 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: 2 coats of Coo-Var, 48 hours inbetween to let the paint dry na duse 2 different colors so you know where you have missed a spot.
OP Iain Downie 13 Oct 2005
Hi all,

Thanks for the advice via email and on here. We have decided, mainly for cost reasons to go for standard paint and mix with the sand. We already had a large amount of good sand left over from last time. Its rather a large area, but will hopefully not wear off too quick.

Will post again in a few weeks to let you know how it is wearing in.

Iain
 climbin_chris 13 Oct 2005
In reply to Iain Downie: I used polyester resin and sand as you can also make you own features out of it. You have to be carefull as the polyester resin always rises above the sand if mixed together- so you have to cover the wet resin after it is applied and as a cheap filler i used dry cement

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