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im thinking about building the moon training board, however the height of my room is smaller than that of the required dimmension. the width is fine but the height is the issue.i would have to space the holes for the hold fixings closer together so that im able to replicate the grid. so by shortening the dimmensions, ie only the height, to fit my room will it affect the grades of the set problems on their site?

thanks

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: ill post up the room dimmensions later today if im not busy, but i think the height is roughly 8ft

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey:
Yes.
Wouldn't it be better to just build an exact replica minus the top bit you can't accomodate?

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey:

Personally I would forget the moon board- it is a luxury if you already have a decent training facility (and the space)- constantly changing the holds will probably become a right faff.

Just build a decent 45 deg wall in the available space and absolutely plaster it with a good mix of holds, including loads of tiny foot screw ons.

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: Go steeper and have the 1st Moon MTFU special edition training board

In reply to FiendishMcButton: Have a look at this on eBay - item number: 110403680761

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: Nice - never thought of using chains to change the angle

In reply to Milgi:
Nice, I also built the Moon schoolroom wall with chains to adjust the angle, works a charm, the wall is heavy enough to eliminate wobbling...

In reply to Ztephan: sounds good, have you got any pics because i was also thinking about having it adjustable

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey:

Voice of reason

Adjustable walls are only appropriate when you have a room with loads of height- just make the wall as steep as poss (min 45 deg) and you will get max climbing space- to make it adjustable you necessarily have to lose board height (and it sounds like you have enough height probs already)

Only trying to help

In reply to teapot: It seems that the wall on eBay actually deals with that problem too with the removable top section.

In reply to Milgi:

I have to admit it does look rather smart. But earlier warnings still apply.

In reply to teapot:


Not if you add a hinge line mid panel and have the top of the top section run along the ceiling in runners (like a garage door). You can get a full height 45deg board that stows flat against the wall when not in use. Maybe a little beyond the average DiYer though?


Likewise.
jk

In reply to jkarran:

Would it be feasable (could anyone be arsed) to change the angle mid session? This would surely be the purpose of this effort- warm up on 20 deg, then put it at 45 deg after half an hour. Then put back to 20 deg for the next training session. I imagine like at commercial walls like the edge it would just stay at a certain angle for ever- once the novelty and motivation wains.

In reply to teapot: I'm sure that the angle of the wall could be changed with the block and tackle and set with chains in a matter of seconds. I don't really see that as being unfeasible.

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: or an electric winch - push of a button then

In reply to teapot:

My mate has one with three hinge lines and a sliding roof section. We change the shape several times a session to create different problems (steep-flat, shallow-flat, concave, convex), it's really quite easy and in a small space, I'd say very useful.

In reply to jkarran: Now that sounds quite impressive - do you have any photos of it?

In reply to jkarran:

Wow- sounds amazing- you are going to tell us it has no flex either- if it doesn`t then it could be the most veratile and quality samll training wall on the planet.

Even if it does flex- it sounds like a genius piece of kit

In reply to teapot:

It is a very impressive solution to the problem of getting a decent wall in a small space (shed). Sorry, I don't have any pics.

It does flex like mad in some configurations (mostly when flat, ie no hinge angles) because there's no frame backing the boards up, I've never understood why flex is considered a problem though, it's not even remotely annoying.

Get creative, it pays off!
jk

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: it has been confirmed that i am not alowed to build the woodie inside. so i have now resorted to building the full moon training board, plus extras outside. however, if i use ordinary plywood but coat it in weather resistant finish etc and keep a tarp over it when not in use, then will it stand the test of british weather?

thanks

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey:
Marine plywood should do the trick.

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey:

Marine ply should manage the trick, at least until your folks kick you out!

In reply to Martin76: lol well that'll be next year then, when i go to uni. i just wanted a woodie as my local wall is 12miles away and it costs abit just to get there and back.

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: Er, pushbike?

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: my local wall consists biking to scunthorpe which is about 8 miles from my house then getting train(bus replacement for 3 months) to doncaster then switching to a real train to sheffield and then walking to the climbing works ect. unless they actually let me take my bike. Mr-cowdrey, you are lucky =]

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: All you need is external grade ply then seal the edges with PVA glue or some other sealant to prevent water ingress into the end grain.
I know that I'm stating the obvious but the epoxies used to bond marine ply are designed for use in a sea enviroment. Unless you're planning on building your wall above the sea it seems rather excessive and wasteful to use marine ply. External ply is a much cheaper alternative and will last a long time if looked after properly.
After saying that, I think that the actual board will be the least of your worries in building your wall outdoors. Your t-nuts, screws and bolts will inevitably rust and you'll need treated timber to build your frame.
Given the weather in the UK if I was you I'd buy a new bike and a good waterproof jacket!

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: do the M10 T-nuts come with the moon holds when bought off the moon website? if so then this will reduce the price taht i have quoted myself.

In reply to Mr-Cowdrey: If you look at the image of the school holds set on the moon website the t-nuts seem to be included.

The moon wall that we mentioned last week is back on ebay - item number: 110408872575. You can't go far wrong with that as there's at least £550 worth of kit on there and its currently sitting at £100 (no bids)!