24m.

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A proper full-on jamming pitch. The central section is tough, although bridging helps, and the pull on to the ledge is tricky. Head up the corner on the right and then traverse awkwardly right to a ledge above Tower Face. © Rockfax

FA. Joe Brown 1950-51

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Stanage Routes BMC Graded List, Eastern Grit Jamming, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans, Stanage for Crack Apprentices, Top 50 Peak Cracks, Brown & Whillans Stanage, 3 Star Stanage, Definitive *** Peak Grit, Eastern Grit 2 star plus (HVS/VS/HS), Stanage Plantation, Stan, On Peak Rock

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Mark Stevenson 30 May, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Respect to Mr Brown - another awesome route from the 1950s. Had a bit of a fight with it and it felt more like 5b to me and my jamming isn't normally that bad. A good old fashioned route to sort the men from the boys. Worth doing (once!).
 
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βeta: Respect to Mr Brown - another awesome route from the 1950s. Had a bit of a fight with it and it felt more like 5b to me and my jamming isn't normally that bad. A good old fashioned route to sort the men from the boys. Worth doing (once!).
bone 2 Sep, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: What a bitch of a route! Awkward bridging as it forces you to really spread 'em, difficult to jam & not obvious what technique to muse on the main crack. Tried jamming, bridging & laybacking - mostly in vain. Definitely the toughest 5a I've done & think technically it should be 5b, certainly if compared to Goliath Groove.
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βeta: What a bitch of a route! Awkward bridging as it forces you to really spread 'em, difficult to jam & not obvious what technique to muse on the main crack. Tried jamming, bridging & laybacking - mostly in vain. Definitely the toughest 5a I've done & think technically it should be 5b, certainly if compared to Goliath Groove.
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Ewan Walker 25 Jul Lead O/S
Hidden 5 Jun 2nd rpt
Hidden 26 May Lead dog
john lynch 21 May Lead O/S
Bethan May Davies 21 May 2nd Epic crazy moves
Epic crazy moves
NinaR 14 May 2nd dog
with Dave Clay
with Dave Clay
James Oakes 4 May Lead O/S
Bradbury 6 Apr Lead O/S
with spenser
with spenser
Hidden 23 Mar 2nd dog
will rivers 25 Feb Lead dog
Hidden ?? -
Rocknast ?? 2nd O/S
Hidden 18 Nov, 2018 Lead O/S
Wanderlust 1 Sep, 2018 2nd dnf Got totally shut down, disappointing. Couldn't get my whole hand in the crack and the layback was overhanging. Desperate.
with riff156
Got totally shut down, disappointing. Couldn't get my whole hand in the crack and the layback was overhanging. Desperate.
with riff156
riff156 1 Sep, 2018 Lead G/U
cragsman9000 23 Aug, 2018 Lead RP
with bob_cbr
with bob_cbr
Hidden 14 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
Hidden 26 May, 2018 -
BarnDawg 20 May, 2018 2nd
DanC1985 20 May, 2018 Lead dnf
Deezel65 19 May, 2018 Lead O/S Only one hard move coming out of the central Crack and bomber gear all the way. No pushover but still low in the grade
Only one hard move coming out of the central Crack and bomber gear all the way. No pushover but still low in the grade
w-watson 19 May, 2018 Lead
J.E.Spencer 19 May, 2018 2nd dog
MrFantastic 3 May, 2018 Lead O/S
with RayG
with RayG
Hidden 21 Apr, 2018 Lead O/S
jake lee 20 Aug, 2017 Lead dog One fall from the bridge done clean from the ledge.
One fall from the bridge done clean from the ledge.
Melonfly 20 Aug, 2017 2nd O/S
Mischa2912 20 Aug, 2017 Lead RP
Hidden 15 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
BlueJohn 15 Aug, 2017 2nd dnf
with slacky
with slacky
mskngch 13 Aug, 2017 2nd
cem 13 Aug, 2017 Lead dog The last few moves near the top of the crack did for me and I had to rest on gear until I worked it out.
The last few moves near the top of the crack did for me and I had to rest on gear until I worked it out.
lusonavigator 13 Aug, 2017 2nd Charles lead. half a dozen attempts to get up top of crack. Led an HVS one day nearly died up another the same day. Plenty to learn
with Charles Moreton, mskngch
Charles lead. half a dozen attempts to get up top of crack. Led an HVS one day nearly died up another the same day. Plenty to learn
with Charles Moreton, mskngch
The Grist 15 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 4 May, 2017 -
JulesV ??, 2017 -
Cake 15 Oct, 2016 Lead dnf Two falls. Got head over the ledge and dropped. I had done 6 HVSs already, though. I can actually do this next time. Beast of a route!
Two falls. Got head over the ledge and dropped. I had done 6 HVSs already, though. I can actually do this next time. Beast of a route!
soph 30 Sep, 2016 2nd rpt
with Tom Le Fanu
with Tom Le Fanu
James Oswald 11 Sep, 2016 Lead O/S Hard!
with Nigel
Hard!
with Nigel
poeter210 17 Jul, 2016 2nd O/S very nearly off! Proper HVS! Did this after Goliath's Groove, this is much harder.
with druss
very nearly off! Proper HVS! Did this after Goliath's Groove, this is much harder.
with druss
Hidden 17 Jul, 2016 Lead O/S
Hidden 17 Jul, 2016 Lead O/S
Hidden 17 Jul, 2016 2nd dog
Flavio 19 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
steve-grigg 15 May, 2016 Lead dog
kyaizawa 7 May, 2016 Lead O/S
Bethwoodley 7 May, 2016 2nd O/S
chancer 7 May, 2016 Lead dnf I thought that I could jam. Now I know I can't.
with Marc Duhig
I thought that I could jam. Now I know I can't.
with Marc Duhig
Jim Slater 4 May, 2016 Lead dog Foiled again!
Foiled again!
patrickcd 20 Apr, 2016 Lead
with Ed
with Ed
morganator 20 Apr, 2016 Solo O/S
TomatoPro 5 Apr, 2016 Lead β Definitely E5 7b. A savage, strenuous climb for the hand jamming uninitiated. Amazing and sustained up the first part of the climb, and scary balancey stuff at the top, but all with good gear.
Definitely E5 7b. A savage, strenuous climb for the hand jamming uninitiated. Amazing and sustained up the first part of the climb, and scary balancey stuff at the top, but all with good gear.
Dan Mckinlay ??, 2016 Lead O/S
Gudge 23 Oct, 2015 2nd dog How embarrassing - must learn to jam!
with Droyd
How embarrassing - must learn to jam!
with Droyd
Droyd 23 Oct, 2015 Lead O/S
with Gudge
with Gudge
Hidden 4 Oct, 2015 2nd
Mark Kemball 4 Oct, 2015 Lead Jamming gloves made this a really enjoyable and relatively pain free experience.
with David Smart
Jamming gloves made this a really enjoyable and relatively pain free experience.
with David Smart
Hidden 26 Sep, 2015 2nd
TobyA 13 Sep, 2015 Lead dnf Fell off trying to get on to the ledge. Felt really hard - significantly harder than various other grit HVSs I've done.
with Anni
Fell off trying to get on to the ledge. Felt really hard - significantly harder than various other grit HVSs I've done.
with Anni
Hidden 23 Aug, 2015 Lead rpt
helin 23 Aug, 2015 2nd
Andy Peak 1 5 Aug, 2015 Lead rpt Jam jam jam
Jam jam jam
Kirill 1 Aug, 2015 Lead O/S Awkward jams, bridging on smears, steep.
with Kris Doggett, Colomban MacDowall
Awkward jams, bridging on smears, steep.
with Kris Doggett, Colomban MacDowall
Hidden 5 Jul, 2015 Lead
Hidden 7 Jun, 2015 Lead O/S
Q.Estelles 23 May, 2015 Lead dog
Robaduck 23 May, 2015 Lead dog
ashtond6 10 May, 2015 2nd rpt
adi bryant 7 May, 2015 AltLd RP
salix 2 May, 2015 2nd In the rain, but still felt nails.
In the rain, but still felt nails.
Hidden 24 Apr, 2015 Lead dog
helin 24 Apr, 2015 2nd
bigdrew 7 Apr, 2015 2nd O/S
ashtond6 27 Feb, 2015 Lead O/S Undoubtedly 5b, really awesome moves. Way more thrutchy than it looks and quite sharp
Undoubtedly 5b, really awesome moves. Way more thrutchy than it looks and quite sharp
Canyak ??, 2015 -
Nick205228 ??, 2015 Lead
Luke Dawson 30 Nov, 2014 Lead O/S a lot wet
with Mike Adams, PeterDawson
a lot wet
with Mike Adams, PeterDawson
Hidden 2 Nov, 2014 2nd O/S
Max Streeton 12 Oct, 2014 Lead
Monkey_Alan 12 Oct, 2014 2nd
Scott Anderson 31 Aug, 2014 2nd O/S
with Max
with Max
Duncan Campbell 9 Aug, 2014 2nd Not one for a hangover. Tasty crack climbing.
Not one for a hangover. Tasty crack climbing.
Hidden 26 Jun, 2014 2nd
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH 3 May, 2014 2nd dog Should've tried harder but didn't want to destroy myself before The Strangler.
Should've tried harder but didn't want to destroy myself before The Strangler.
Andy Peak 1 15 Apr, 2014 Lead One of the best hard and safe. The wet foot hold only ads to the fun:-) joe was truly the master:-)1950
with Andrew Deckon
One of the best hard and safe. The wet foot hold only ads to the fun:-) joe was truly the master:-)1950
with Andrew Deckon
dr_botnik 15 Apr, 2014 2nd dog
Dan Arkle ??, 2014 -
debsb 1 Oct, 2013 2nd
Hannes B 1 Oct, 2013 Lead O/S gear in place
with debsb
gear in place
with debsb
cameron_hall 8 Sep, 2013 2nd dog Really hard work, but somehow got there in the end. Strenuous bridging and difficult to work out what to do.
Really hard work, but somehow got there in the end. Strenuous bridging and difficult to work out what to do.
leeoftroy ?Sep, 2013 Lead dog bloody hard and my first lead fall. Nice one Joe!
bloody hard and my first lead fall. Nice one Joe!
leeoftroy ?Sep, 2013 Lead RP Returned to try again. Worked out a way to jam myself in and take a much needed rest before the crux move that pulls you out of the crack. So so happy to get this one clean. The missing skin on my left hand acting as a nice reminder. One of the best! :-)
Returned to try again. Worked out a way to jam myself in and take a much needed rest before the crux move that pulls you out of the crack. So so happy to get this one clean. The missing skin on my left hand acting as a nice reminder. One of the best! :-)
Hidden 10 May, 2013 2nd dog
Jonathan Hall 15 Sep, 2012 Lead
with Tamati
with Tamati
Hidden 15 Sep, 2012 2nd
roberto18 15 Sep, 2012 2nd I had to second this wearing one trainer and one climbing shoe due to a stubbed toe. Nails!
with Tom Nickols
I had to second this wearing one trainer and one climbing shoe due to a stubbed toe. Nails!
with Tom Nickols
Boy 9 Sep, 2012 Lead
with Jon Coe
with Jon Coe
farkas.time 29 Jul, 2012 Lead dog just had to hold onto that wire for a second. nice one.
just had to hold onto that wire for a second. nice one.
Tom Doldon 24 May, 2012 Lead dnf hardest hvs ive ever tried
with sam simpson 48
hardest hvs ive ever tried
with sam simpson 48
Hidden 24 May, 2012 2nd
Alex@home 14 May, 2012 Lead O/S thought this was going to be a real struggle but turned out to be mostly very pleasant bridging with one slightly tougher move to exit the crack
with The Doctor
thought this was going to be a real struggle but turned out to be mostly very pleasant bridging with one slightly tougher move to exit the crack
with The Doctor
Jim Slater 14 Jun, 2011 Lead dog ..well almost..rested on rope at top of crack.
..well almost..rested on rope at top of crack.
CRiddiford 4 Jun, 2011 2nd
with Paul L
with Paul L
JRae 3 Jun, 2011 Lead
with M Scott
with M Scott
Anthony Dixon 16 Apr, 2011 Lead
uphillnow ??, 2011 -
PAJames ??, 2011 -
Si dH 16 Oct, 2010 Lead O/S Good tough HVS crack climbing. Starting the final traverse gives a bit of a sting in the tail too.
with Neil Furniss
Good tough HVS crack climbing. Starting the final traverse gives a bit of a sting in the tail too.
with Neil Furniss
Steve13 5 Sep, 2010 2nd
with clukins
with clukins
clukins 5 Sep, 2010 Lead dnf Fell at the break in the crack on the central section.
Fell at the break in the crack on the central section.
dan gibson 3 Aug, 2010 Solo rpt
andrea83 2 Aug, 2010 2nd dnf Absolute hell. Couldn't finish. A mans route for sure. Note to self never try again!
Absolute hell. Couldn't finish. A mans route for sure. Note to self never try again!
Graeme Hammond 2 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S brilliant bridging moves followed by some tough jamming to reach the ledge (got to be 5b!), brutal but essential Stanage tick and hard at HVS! Also 2nd with Jim 4/5/16 still hard work
brilliant bridging moves followed by some tough jamming to reach the ledge (got to be 5b!), brutal but essential Stanage tick and hard at HVS! Also 2nd with Jim 4/5/16 still hard work
Cake 19 Jul, 2010 Lead dnf Solid crux
with Angus
Solid crux
with Angus
ed edwards ?May, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 2010 -
Hidden ?Dec, 2009 -
Jim Slater 27 Sep, 2009 Lead dog
with Eric, Mark Mercer
with Eric, Mark Mercer
goi.ashmore 6 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S Highly amusing
with Arnaud Garcon
Highly amusing
with Arnaud Garcon
Different Steve 25 Jul, 2009 Lead O/S Spicy!
with Guy Reid
Spicy!
with Guy Reid
nicnic 25 May, 2009 Lead yikes. wild. scary. pumpy. fierce. brutal.
with Jon Youles
yikes. wild. scary. pumpy. fierce. brutal.
with Jon Youles
Hidden 18 Oct, 2008 Lead
RocknRoll 16 Aug, 2008 Lead O/S Quite thuggy but bridging helped, reachy commiting move to platform, very pleased to get it.
with John Rushby
Quite thuggy but bridging helped, reachy commiting move to platform, very pleased to get it.
with John Rushby
al99 15 Aug, 2008 Lead O/S
with James Whitlock
with James Whitlock
jw231 15 Aug, 2008 2nd dog
with Al Benson
with Al Benson
Hidden 7 Aug, 2008 2nd dog
Hidden 29 Jun, 2008 Lead
Hidden 23 Jun, 2008 Lead O/S
feilx 11 Jun, 2008 Solo O/S
dancurrie 8 Jun, 2008 Lead dog
Brown 4 Jun, 2008 2nd O/S
gethin_allen ?Jun, 2008 2nd who needs skin on their hands anyhow?
with neil
who needs skin on their hands anyhow?
with neil
OffshoreAndy 18 May, 2008 Lead O/S
with NCC Kelvin
with NCC Kelvin
TomHaigh 14 May, 2008 Lead dnf
with Doug
with Doug
Dan 85 26 Feb, 2008 Lead dnf Wouldn't usually log dnf, but got all the way up the jamming crack, but couldn't make the rightwards move onto the face due to the gale that was coming from the other side!!
with Nicos
Wouldn't usually log dnf, but got all the way up the jamming crack, but couldn't make the rightwards move onto the face due to the gale that was coming from the other side!!
with Nicos
The old James turnbull ??, 2008 Lead
Hidden 6 Oct, 2007 Lead dog
KristianBirchall 6 Oct, 2007 Lead O/S
with Claire Chadderton
with Claire Chadderton
shoulders 4 Aug, 2007 Lead
dan gibson 2 Mar, 2007 Lead rpt
with jon redshaw
with jon redshaw
JPGR 2 Mar, 2007 2nd
with Daniel
with Daniel
Duncan I ??, 2007 -
Rob Kennard ??, 2007 -
Hidden ??, 2007 -
Andy Chubb 9 Jun, 2006 2nd
with Steve Goodman
with Steve Goodman
Mark Stevenson 28 May, 2006 Lead O/S
with Oli
with Oli
Hidden 28 May, 2006 2nd dog
Pete Graham ??, 2006 Lead
with Jonny Reay
with Jonny Reay
ArnaudG ??, 2006 -
Hidden 15 Oct, 2005 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 2002 -
kylo-342 ?Jun, 2001 2nd
with Simon M
with Simon M
Hidden ??, 2000 Lead O/S
tlr ??, 2000 2nd
Ben Bransby ??, 2000 Solo
dan gibson ??, 2000 -
Simon Pearce ??, 1999 -
Roget 25 Jun, 1998 Lead rpt
timreynolds 25 May, 1997 Lead O/S
with Rob Clark
with Rob Clark
NeilGriffiths 29 Apr, 1997 -
with Kerry
with Kerry
RossG123 ??, 1997 Solo
Hidden ??, 1995 Lead
Hidden ??, 1993 Lead
Chris Ellis 5 Sep, 1992 2nd
with Martin Veale
with Martin Veale
Hidden 16 Jun, 1990 2nd
surfbish ?Jun, 1988 Lead O/S
BRUCESTRAC ??, 1988 -
with Chris Cracknell,Various
with Chris Cracknell,Various
Rob Davies ?Jul, 1987 Lead This used to be a very tough VS
with Brian H
This used to be a very tough VS
with Brian H
Neil McA 26 Apr, 1986 Lead O/S
Neil McA 26 Apr, 1986 Lead O/S
with Martin Wilson, Beak 2
with Martin Wilson, Beak 2
Rick51 20 Sep, 1981 Lead rpt
Hidden 31 Aug, 1981 Lead
Nigel Bond 22 Jul, 1980 Solo
Hidden ??, 1980 Lead
Dave Musgrove 24 Apr, 1977 Lead Felt tough, though it was graded VS then. Cold windy day - escaped to the shelter of Stoney.
with Jim Worthington
Felt tough, though it was graded VS then. Cold windy day - escaped to the shelter of Stoney.
with Jim Worthington
Chris Terrey ??, 1977 Lead
with Ken Taylor
with Ken Taylor
Martin Bennett 13 Nov, 1976 -
with JD
with JD
clanger ??, 1972 -
mikej 7 Jun, 1969 Lead
with Geoff Williams
with Geoff Williams
mikej 28 Aug, 1967 Lead dnf A bit stiff for VS.
with Dave Williams, Nigel Sumner
A bit stiff for VS.
with Dave Williams, Nigel Sumner
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