18m.

Rockfax Description
A worthwhile climb. Climb the lower wall rightwards and a short corner to a sandy ledge and possible belay. Finish up the corner groove on the right. © Rockfax

FA. Don Morrison 1956

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LakesWinter 21 Nov, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: What you neglect to mention is that it took you 5 hours and I lost 1 hand to frostbite, but nice one all the same.
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βeta: What you neglect to mention is that it took you 5 hours and I lost 1 hand to frostbite, but nice one all the same.
MNA123 10 Jan, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Great route nice easy bottom bit and severly hard top bit. Climbed it in one long pitch so didn't have the luxury of standing on my seconds shoulders.I'm only 5'8 so the reaches on the top wall were nearly impossible,don't climb this if you cant hang around on crimps. I finished up using a small pinch in the crack on the right hand side,before finishing up the right hand side of the tree,is this right? Because this felt 5c not 5b.
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βeta: Great route nice easy bottom bit and severly hard top bit. Climbed it in one long pitch so didn't have the luxury of standing on my seconds shoulders.I'm only 5'8 so the reaches on the top wall were nearly impossible,don't climb this if you cant hang around on crimps. I finished up using a small pinch in the crack on the right hand side,before finishing up the right hand side of the tree,is this right? Because this felt 5c not 5b.
Ropeboy 21 May, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Agreed, some hard moves to leave the midway ledge, the rest of the climb is quite straight forward.
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βeta: Agreed, some hard moves to leave the midway ledge, the rest of the climb is quite straight forward.
Mark A Humphries 14 Aug, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: I tried this yesterday and thought the top was brick hard for 5b. Unless you use the flake on the right wall or are well over six foot there is no way on Gods earth you can reach the ledge from which you have to mantel! My mates BMC Guidebook makes a comment about standing on a mates shoulders which I think says it all.
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βeta: I tried this yesterday and thought the top was brick hard for 5b. Unless you use the flake on the right wall or are well over six foot there is no way on Gods earth you can reach the ledge from which you have to mantel! My mates BMC Guidebook makes a comment about standing on a mates shoulders which I think says it all.
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djones66 8 Sep 2nd Better than it looks, also slightly harder than it looks. I reckon the right hand start is about 4b and the left hand start is about 5a. Take your pick. Looking at the notes it seems that people are writing about two (or more?!) different routes. The one I did today was the zigzag line rising right and finishing up a corner crack, VS.
with Stve mc D
Better than it looks, also slightly harder than it looks. I reckon the right hand start is about 4b and the left hand start is about 5a. Take your pick. Looking at the notes it seems that people are writing about two (or more?!) different routes. The one I did today was the zigzag line rising right and finishing up a corner crack, VS.
with Stve mc D
Hidden 18 Aug 2nd
Roland stopps 18 Aug Lead
jh1990 18 Aug Lead O/S
Andy Waterhouse 3 Jun 2nd O/S
db79 5 May 2nd O/S
Georgina Brooke 21 Apr 2nd Did not like, better than some pure thrutch fests at Lawrencefield but still quite burly and inelegant
with mihai
Did not like, better than some pure thrutch fests at Lawrencefield but still quite burly and inelegant
with mihai
Oplumb 20 Apr Lead O/S
Hidden 20 Apr 2nd O/S
Hidden 19 Apr 2nd
tomholden 19 Apr TR dog
with JTiners
with JTiners
JTiners 19 Apr Lead O/S
Elliot Gagen 17 Nov, 2018 2nd
IWasJack 20 Oct, 2018 AltLd Rosie led to the ledge then I took the corner to finish.
with Drew Logan, Rosie
Rosie led to the ledge then I took the corner to finish.
with Drew Logan, Rosie
Drew Logan 20 Oct, 2018 AltLd O/S
Hidden 30 Sep, 2018 -
jodikate 22 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S
Calum Wadsworth 12 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S Looked at the harder finishes but didn't like the ledge so finished up the corner.
Looked at the harder finishes but didn't like the ledge so finished up the corner.
Teappleby 12 Sep, 2018 2nd O/S
Hidden 9 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S
charlie broe 3 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S
with Pam
with Pam
Sut 17 Aug, 2018 Lead O/S
Remi Richards 11 Aug, 2018 Lead dnf Lowered off when it started raining.
with Bedford, Jo Trendall
Lowered off when it started raining.
with Bedford, Jo Trendall
smithjake16 4 Aug, 2018 2nd
John R Coller 15 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
Hidden 8 Jun, 2018 Lead
Terry Cruise ??, 2018 Lead O/S
royle883 27 Sep, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 4 Aug, 2017 2nd O/S
Andysomething 4 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S Set out along Delectable traverse - but wind gusting felt too tenuous so opted for safer finish up the corner
with Norman Bennett, Bruce Perry
Set out along Delectable traverse - but wind gusting felt too tenuous so opted for safer finish up the corner
with Norman Bennett, Bruce Perry
James Oakes 4 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S
soph_klein 4 Jul, 2017 2nd
stevo smith 16 Jun, 2017 Lead
with Chris Britton
with Chris Britton
Hidden 22 Oct, 2016 TR dog
Hidden 19 Oct, 2016 Lead O/S
Gavinwm 7 Aug, 2016 2nd
with Chris
with Chris
gerstlauer 7 Aug, 2016 Lead
with Sam P
with Sam P
Sam P 7 Aug, 2016 2nd O/S
Hidden 6 Aug, 2016 2nd
CJSuttz 6 Aug, 2016 Lead rpt
CJSuttz 31 Jul, 2016 Lead rpt
Hidden 31 Jul, 2016 2nd O/S
Afell 3 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
Derek Furze 13 Apr, 2016 2nd
with Rick
with Rick
paul79 27 Feb, 2016 Lead O/S
Tony Prendergast ??, 2016 -
Hidden ??, 2016 -
John1458 22 Nov, 2015 Lead O/S
NinaR 18 Aug, 2015 2nd O/S Took me a while to get off the ground
Took me a while to get off the ground
Capricorn One 18 Aug, 2015 Lead Solid, sandy VS, got some grief for not using the E1 finish!
with NinaR
Solid, sandy VS, got some grief for not using the E1 finish!
with NinaR
Hidden 19 Apr, 2015 Lead
allend 11 Apr, 2015 2nd β
marclloyd77 11 Apr, 2015 Lead O/S VS finish
with allend
VS finish
with allend
craig.england1 ??, 2015 2nd
Stefan_Morris 19 Oct, 2014 Lead O/S
with Stuart Clark
with Stuart Clark
Fragmod 19 Oct, 2014 Lead
dannyboy83 18 Oct, 2014 Lead O/S
lena.drapella 18 Oct, 2014 2nd O/S
nimajneb 18 Oct, 2014 Solo O/S
WillDoyle 17 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
Chris Reid 3 Aug, 2014 2nd
with Rob Muirhead
with Rob Muirhead
Brown 13 Apr, 2014 Lead
with Lilifa
with Lilifa
Karl Wooffindin 11 Apr, 2014 Lead rpt
with Bryce Rigler
with Bryce Rigler
uphillnow ??, 2014 -
Hidden 21 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
HVSJames 17 May, 2013 AltLd
Matt Marsh 17 May, 2013 AltLd O/S
Dave Turnbull, BMC 4 May, 2013 2nd
with Debbie Birch
with Debbie Birch
Guy Wilson 23 Apr, 2013 2nd
with Gavin Moy, Rick Cotgreave
with Gavin Moy, Rick Cotgreave
bclifton ??, 2013 Lead O/S
HVSJames ??, 2013 Lead O/S
stefie c 17 Oct, 2012 2nd
with Jamie
with Jamie
Hidden 12 Oct, 2012 Lead rpt
Hidden 12 Sep, 2012 2nd O/S
Andy Clarke 19 Jun, 2012 Lead O/S Some good moves: quite sustained.
with Tim
Some good moves: quite sustained.
with Tim
Hidden 19 Jun, 2012 2nd
robin_hackney 13 May, 2012 2nd O/S
Hidden 13 May, 2012 Lead rpt
Stone Muppet 13 May, 2012 Lead O/S Used flake out right (didn't know it wasn't in...)
with tim
Used flake out right (didn't know it wasn't in...)
with tim
Lenny 15 Mar, 2012 Lead dog
with Steve
with Steve
Hidden 11 Mar, 2012 Lead O/S
Michael Ryan 25 Feb, 2012 2nd
with Tom Robbins, Mammut
with Tom Robbins, Mammut
Hidden 7 Jan, 2012 2nd
James Oswald 26 Nov, 2011 Lead O/S Really hard, spent ages hanging around getting a piece of gear in at the top.. Was pretty intimidated and didn't completely trust the wire. Lowered off. Then did it, hard and really superb.
with Mr. K
Really hard, spent ages hanging around getting a piece of gear in at the top.. Was pretty intimidated and didn't completely trust the wire. Lowered off. Then did it, hard and really superb.
with Mr. K
Mr. K 26 Nov, 2011 2nd
disturbed_one51 23 Oct, 2011 Lead Mantleshelf finish - scary and desperate feeling, especially with an alarming lack of gear. Its a good thing the ledge has good holds on it
Mantleshelf finish - scary and desperate feeling, especially with an alarming lack of gear. Its a good thing the ledge has good holds on it
Lxaddison 15 Jul, 2011 Lead O/S
Martin Haworth 29 May, 2011 Lead rpt
with Ian Holtby
with Ian Holtby
Jonathan Hall 30 Apr, 2011 2nd
with Tamati
with Tamati
Hidden 30 Apr, 2011 Lead
Hidden 24 Oct, 2010 Lead
barni 12 Oct, 2010 2nd O/S
Luke Brooks 12 Oct, 2010 Lead Direct up crack, seemed hard.
Direct up crack, seemed hard.
Hidden ?Sep, 2010 2nd
Si dH 25 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S Think it would be better described as using both the crack and the ledge on the top wall, rather than one or the other as in the definitive. To be clear having read some of the comments below, you can place a nut in the crack with your hands on the good ledge just right of it (ie before the top crux) but it is a bit awkward and blind.
with Chris Foster
Think it would be better described as using both the crack and the ledge on the top wall, rather than one or the other as in the definitive. To be clear having read some of the comments below, you can place a nut in the crack with your hands on the good ledge just right of it (ie before the top crux) but it is a bit awkward and blind.
with Chris Foster
Hidden 25 Aug, 2010 2nd
LisaA 26 Jul, 2010 2nd dog
AlistairB 24 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
with LisaA
with LisaA
Hidden 16 May, 2010 2nd
Dave Foster 2 May, 2010 Lead O/S Finished up crack. Delicate technical moves - think I might've threatened an Egyptian at one point, 'til I came to my senses.
with Andy
Finished up crack. Delicate technical moves - think I might've threatened an Egyptian at one point, 'til I came to my senses.
with Andy
Hidden ?May, 2010 AltLd
J.Wells 14 Apr, 2010 Lead O/S
vanderz 12 Apr, 2010 Lead O/S
arunthomas 10 Apr, 2010 2nd dog
with Shawn
with Shawn
Hidden 21 Mar, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 2010 2nd RP
Brian Rodgers 17 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
philhilo 17 Oct, 2009 2nd
cem 11 Oct, 2009 2nd
with GrahamD
with GrahamD
Hidden 11 Oct, 2009 2nd
Hidden 4 Oct, 2009 2nd RP
Daniel Wicks 4 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
with Kine
with Kine
tigertim 22 Aug, 2009 2nd
Dave Reeve 22 Aug, 2009 Lead
Clee 9 Aug, 2009 2nd dog
with Chris
with Chris
Bob 26 May, 2009 2nd O/S
with M. Bullough
with M. Bullough
robin heath 16 May, 2009 Lead O/S
with kim
with kim
chris sm 2 May, 2009 2nd O/S
with Pippa Froggatt
with Pippa Froggatt
Hidden 25 Apr, 2009 2nd O/S
Dan 85 24 Apr, 2009 2nd O/S Mantle was easy, crux felt getting to the hold.
with Lewi, Richard Armour
Mantle was easy, crux felt getting to the hold.
with Lewi, Richard Armour
Hidden 24 Apr, 2009 2nd O/S
Lewis Andrew 24 Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
with Dan, Rich Armour
with Dan, Rich Armour
Hidden 16 Apr, 2009 Lead dnf
peter myers ?Apr, 2009 Lead in the rain
with Matt Eyre
in the rain
with Matt Eyre
simonp ?Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
with Nicki Hearne
with Nicki Hearne
scullymammoth 3 May, 2008 2nd
Karl Wooffindin 2 May, 2008 Lead O/S
Hidden 1 Mar, 2008 Lead
BenJacobs 1 Mar, 2008 2nd
tomboyle 13 Feb, 2008 Lead dnf lead to the ledge then got winched to the top. VS 4c
with bionik
lead to the ledge then got winched to the top. VS 4c
with bionik
mppearson ??, 2008 -
AndrewJenkins ??, 2008 -
Hidden ??, 2008 -
Pythonist 7 Sep, 2007 2nd O/S The wall is a rather hard E1 if gear is used in the left-hand crackline. E2 is that's eliminated. ... Or you could just climb the crack at hard E1.
with PeakDJ
The wall is a rather hard E1 if gear is used in the left-hand crackline. E2 is that's eliminated. ... Or you could just climb the crack at hard E1.
with PeakDJ
frankcp87 1 Sep, 2007 Lead O/S set up belay on the ledge, and followed will across the traverse. Vs 4C
with williap
set up belay on the ledge, and followed will across the traverse. Vs 4C
with williap
williap 1 Sep, 2007 2nd
SR1970 ?Aug, 2007 Lead O/S
Apharri ?Jun, 2007 2nd β
with Andre Hedger
with Andre Hedger
climbingrick ?Apr, 2007 Lead O/S
dicky79 17 Mar, 2007 2nd O/S Unprotected moves to finish the climb. A bit tasty.
with Pete
Unprotected moves to finish the climb. A bit tasty.
with Pete
Hidden 10 Mar, 2007 Lead O/S
Mark Stevenson 14 Jan, 2007 Lead O/S
climbingpixie 14 Jan, 2007 2nd
with Mark Stevenson
with Mark Stevenson
UndercoverElephant ??, 2007 Lead O/S
Hidden 5 Nov, 2006 2nd O/S
steveb2006 8 Oct, 2006 Lead After failing on Boulevard
After failing on Boulevard
Hidden 7 Oct, 2006 2nd
Andrew Sloan 27 Aug, 2006 2nd O/S
dan gibson 30 Mar, 2006 Lead rpt
with martina
with martina
Hidden ??, 2006 -
Hidden 19 Nov, 2005 Lead β
Hidden ?Apr, 2004 2nd O/S
Mark Collins 28 Mar, 2004 Lead O/S
with Neil Henson
with Neil Henson
Neil Henson 28 Mar, 2004 2nd dog I thought the top pitch of this was absolutely desperate and completely unprotected for the leader. Felt very tough for the grade. Had to be winched up.
with Mark Collins
I thought the top pitch of this was absolutely desperate and completely unprotected for the leader. Felt very tough for the grade. Had to be winched up.
with Mark Collins
Hidden 23 Oct, 2003 2nd O/S
Mark A Humphries 13 Aug, 2003 Lead O/S
with Andy
with Andy
Hidden 5 May, 2002 Lead O/S
steveb2006 7 Oct, 2001 Lead Climbed the thin crack left of corner at top - good - seems the more obvious way to go
with Roland Smith
Climbed the thin crack left of corner at top - good - seems the more obvious way to go
with Roland Smith
skygodley 16 Sep, 2000 Lead O/S
Hidden ?May, 2000 TR
sean0409 ??, 2000 Lead took a fall on this from where the crack runs out back to the ledge absolutely brilliant
with dad
took a fall on this from where the crack runs out back to the ledge absolutely brilliant
with dad
tlr ??, 2000 Lead
nickcanute ??, 2000 -
with led or solo -various dates
with led or solo -various dates
Billg ??, 1998 Lead O/S
rocktigger ??, 1997 Lead O/S
with chopper
with chopper
Mick King 3 Nov, 1996 Solo O/S
Trobbo 4 Oct, 1996 2nd
with john blower
with john blower
Hidden 18 Aug, 1996 TR
NeilGriffiths ?Apr, 1996 -
BlueJohn ??, 1996 2nd
Hidden 25 Jun, 1995 2nd
astrecks 18 Mar, 1995 Lead β
with Rod
with Rod
GuyC 30 Apr, 1994 AltLd O/S
with Jon Bell, Clare
with Jon Bell, Clare
Hidden 10 Oct, 1993 Lead O/S
Hidden 10 Sep, 1993 Lead
OMSKB ??, 1993 -
Hidden 22 Feb, 1992 2nd O/S
crossleysm ??, 1992 Lead O/S
Neil R 19 May, 1990 2nd
with Richard W
with Richard W
Alan James - UKC and UKH 16 May, 1990 2nd
ajtay ??, 1990 -
kjacks ??, 1990 Lead
with Pat Thomas
with Pat Thomas
Hidden 24 Oct, 1989 Lead
tapley 25 Sep, 1989 Lead
with Alison Tapley
with Alison Tapley
NickJH ??, 1989 Lead O/S
with CAirey
with CAirey
BRUCESTRAC ??, 1988 -
with Chris Cracknell,Various
with Chris Cracknell,Various
GuySummers ??, 1987 Lead
Neil McA 29 Jul, 1986 Lead O/S
with Burt Levy, Martin Wilson, Tom Lewis
with Burt Levy, Martin Wilson, Tom Lewis
Hidden 25 Mar, 1985 Lead
andy gittins ??, 1985 -
Ian Clare ??, 1984 -
ewar woowar ??, 1982 -
Hammy 30 Oct, 1981 Lead
with Kate Knight
with Kate Knight
mark-abz 17 Sep, 1981 TR
babymoac 15 Jun, 1980 2nd
with MTW
with MTW
Ratfeeder ?Jun, 1980 Lead O/S
with Ian (VMC)
with Ian (VMC)
duncan ?Sep, 1979 Lead O/S
DonnyDave 20 Jun, 1979 Lead
with Steve Holgarth
with Steve Holgarth
Rob Davies ?Jul, 1978 Lead
with Angus McLean
with Angus McLean
Mark Kemball 11 Dec, 1977 Lead
with Sarah Bridge
with Sarah Bridge
Brian Wilderspin ?Aug, 1977 Lead O/S
KRB 2 Jul, 1977 Lead O/S
with Mike Bridges
with Mike Bridges
Nigel Bond 27 Feb, 1977 Lead
with Dave
with Dave
Gordon Stainforth 16 Aug, 1975 AltLd
with Richard Gatehouse
with Richard Gatehouse
rogerskews ??, 1975 -
Rick51 30 Sep, 1973 Lead
greenbuoy 6 Feb, 1972 2nd
with Bob Lister
with Bob Lister
Peter Main 10 Oct, 1971 2nd
with Bill Cheverest
with Bill Cheverest
mikej 11 May, 1969 Lead dnf
with E C/W
with E C/W
mikej 11 May, 1969 Lead The VS version!
with E C/W
The VS version!
with E C/W
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