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Rockfax Description
The fine arete is one of the unsung gems of Froggatt. A tough start leads up flakes then a hard move gains a break and gear. From here pull up to gain and enjoy the rounded finish. Classic. © Rockfax

FA. Steve Bancroft 1977

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Andy Reeve 1 Apr, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: You must be missing something Fiend, spot on at the grade, on both counts. Excellent climbing, each move leads you on to the next.
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βeta: You must be missing something Fiend, spot on at the grade, on both counts. Excellent climbing, each move leads you on to the next.
Fiend 20 Mar, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Having tried the start (trying to find a way with various cunning moves from the left hand seam to the right hand flake) many over 4 seperate sessions, I am tending to agree with Simon Lee more than Ropeboy... I'm usually able to boulder 6b pretty quickly and flash many 6as (in almost any style, although crimpy side-pull aretes are usually a forte...), so to not find a way to do this after a couple of dozen attempts is quite suspicious.
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βeta: Having tried the start (trying to find a way with various cunning moves from the left hand seam to the right hand flake) many over 4 seperate sessions, I am tending to agree with Simon Lee more than Ropeboy... I'm usually able to boulder 6b pretty quickly and flash many 6as (in almost any style, although crimpy side-pull aretes are usually a forte...), so to not find a way to do this after a couple of dozen attempts is quite suspicious.
Ropeboy 4 Jan, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: The photo is correct. Climb the arete via a series of cunning moves (crux) to good gear and steady climbing to a slopey finish, steady 6a at best, never 6b. The start used to be easier before the demise of the tree that you could bridge off. The old crux being the top out. Yet another Bancroft classic.
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βeta: The photo is correct. Climb the arete via a series of cunning moves (crux) to good gear and steady climbing to a slopey finish, steady 6a at best, never 6b. The start used to be easier before the demise of the tree that you could bridge off. The old crux being the top out. Yet another Bancroft classic.
UKB Shark 4 Jan, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Unsure about the start as the line in the rockfax was ambiguous and the photo severely foreshortened. Opted for reaching across from the right with a siderunner for pro rather than attempt what looked like a highball 6B direct start. Classic climbing thereafter. Well worth checking out in poor conditions.
 
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βeta: Unsure about the start as the line in the rockfax was ambiguous and the photo severely foreshortened. Opted for reaching across from the right with a siderunner for pro rather than attempt what looked like a highball 6B direct start. Classic climbing thereafter. Well worth checking out in poor conditions.
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Logged Ascents

User Date Style Notes & Partners
Alex hall 6 Apr Lead O/S Pumpy route, definitely worth taking a pad or two
Pumpy route, definitely worth taking a pad or two
Kike Kikon 6 Apr Lead dnf Must visit when rested
Must visit when rested
Dave Turnbull, BMC 23 Mar Lead rpt
with Kasia
with Kasia
simon cox 18 Mar -
simon cox 18 Mar -
Hidden 26 Feb Lead
lucybradbury 22 Oct, 2018 Lead dog
with F.Wish
with F.Wish
F.Wish 22 Oct, 2018 Lead β Really cool route, top out feels more committed than it should. First E4 and 6a flash
Really cool route, top out feels more committed than it should. First E4 and 6a flash
James Oakes 15 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S Scary and committing start!
Scary and committing start!
joese7en 22 May, 2018 Lead E2 5c variation, quality route!
with NG
E2 5c variation, quality route!
with NG
Longsufferingropeholder 20 May, 2018 TR Didn't bring a pad so opted for the bouldering mat from the sky rather than try to OS. Bottom bit clean first time. Top moves by the pocket desperate. Maybe just too hot for traditional stuff like that. No idea what I'd have done arriving there on lead.
Didn't bring a pad so opted for the bouldering mat from the sky rather than try to OS. Bottom bit clean first time. Top moves by the pocket desperate. Maybe just too hot for traditional stuff like that. No idea what I'd have done arriving there on lead.
dominic lee 24 Feb, 2018 2nd rpt
nathanlee 24 Feb, 2018 Lead G/U Lobbed off the start! Felt a bit sketch with a meagre rack. Brilliant route
Lobbed off the start! Felt a bit sketch with a meagre rack. Brilliant route
Jmpollard 5 Nov, 2017 Lead G/U Class, fell off the boulder problem loads, got first e4 jitters I guess, fell off once higher up as I faffed about for too long then did it next go, fantastic climbing
Class, fell off the boulder problem loads, got first e4 jitters I guess, fell off once higher up as I faffed about for too long then did it next go, fantastic climbing
Hidden 17 Oct, 2017 TR dnf
Hidden 15 Oct, 2017 TR dnf
CraigOsborne 8 Oct, 2017 2nd O/S
with Ben
with Ben
BRoe 8 Oct, 2017 Lead O/S
with CRAIG!
with CRAIG!
Adam Long 12 Aug, 2017 2nd Years ago backed off soloing this with Bransby - a wise move as it turns out. Got flash pumped so traved off Char and let take over
with Char Williams
Years ago backed off soloing this with Bransby - a wise move as it turns out. Got flash pumped so traved off Char and let take over
with Char Williams
Cowboyhat 12 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
Harald 23 May, 2017 Lead O/S
Harald 23 May, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden ?May, 2017 Lead β
kermit_uk 26 Apr, 2017 2nd dog What a cracking route. had a few rests but all the moves felt OK with good gear and rests. What an incredible line! One of the best things I've tried, will be back next year for it on the right end of the rope!
with bigdrew
What a cracking route. had a few rests but all the moves felt OK with good gear and rests. What an incredible line! One of the best things I've tried, will be back next year for it on the right end of the rope!
with bigdrew
Hidden 25 Mar, 2017 Lead RP
Andy Moles 24 Mar, 2017 Lead
with Dave Lyons Ewing
with Dave Lyons Ewing
Hidden 24 Mar, 2017 Lead G/U
dbottomley ?Mar, 2017 Lead G/U
Rory_Cummings_NI 3 Dec, 2016 Lead G/U
with pingora
with pingora
Dave Heaton 22 Oct, 2016 TR
with James Forbes
with James Forbes
Hidden 22 Oct, 2016 TR dnf
Hidden 24 Sep, 2016 Lead
Kipper-Phil Smith 15 May, 2016 TR Very tricky start up the arête. Got all the moves first gear seams a long way from the ground.
with Roscoe
Very tricky start up the arête. Got all the moves first gear seams a long way from the ground.
with Roscoe
Nick1812P 9 Apr, 2016 Lead G/U 2nd go, had a bit of a mare first time round moving past the gear and got spooked. Serves me right for trying to warm up on an E4, I need to get some trad mileage in.
2nd go, had a bit of a mare first time round moving past the gear and got spooked. Serves me right for trying to warm up on an E4, I need to get some trad mileage in.
Teappleby 9 Apr, 2016 Lead G/U Lesson from today 'do more trad'. Went second go, first go flashed up to the final moves but blew it as I rocked onto my foot and was toe dragging on a krab with the other foot, my thermal had got over my other hand....etc. Basically went tits up and took large inverting whip. Felt much better second go. In hindsight, it seems like all the moves were probably fine I was just a total spanner today!
Lesson from today 'do more trad'. Went second go, first go flashed up to the final moves but blew it as I rocked onto my foot and was toe dragging on a krab with the other foot, my thermal had got over my other hand....etc. Basically went tits up and took large inverting whip. Felt much better second go. In hindsight, it seems like all the moves were probably fine I was just a total spanner today!
James Oswald ?Apr, 2016 Lead G/U Fell off a couple of times at the break. Did with pre placed gear because I had no pad. One of my favourite routes on grit - great climbing with enough good gear.
with Alan saul
Fell off a couple of times at the break. Did with pre placed gear because I had no pad. One of my favourite routes on grit - great climbing with enough good gear.
with Alan saul
deacondeacon 20 Mar, 2016 Lead G/U Jumped down from the first break last week as I was too pumped to place the gear lol. Went fine today. Really quality route that should see more attention. I belayed Mark on this last year (I think) and can't remember if I seconded him or not, but don't think so.
Jumped down from the first break last week as I was too pumped to place the gear lol. Went fine today. Really quality route that should see more attention. I belayed Mark on this last year (I think) and can't remember if I seconded him or not, but don't think so.
Dave Warburton 13 Mar, 2016 Lead G/U Fell off from the vertical crack unexpectedly! Boo. Second go.
Fell off from the vertical crack unexpectedly! Boo. Second go.
Will Hunt 13 Mar, 2016 2nd RP Volunteered for the lead first. Didn't figure out the crux. Watched Dave do it and decided I didn't want to lead it anymore. Clean from the ground on second. Not as easy as it looks after the boulder problem.
Volunteered for the lead first. Didn't figure out the crux. Watched Dave do it and decided I didn't want to lead it anymore. Clean from the ground on second. Not as easy as it looks after the boulder problem.
Sam Marks 13 Mar, 2016 Lead G/U Fell off the boulder problem start then got it, quality sustained climbing, one of the best peak e4s ive done
Fell off the boulder problem start then got it, quality sustained climbing, one of the best peak e4s ive done
Hidden 13 Mar, 2016 2nd O/S
melv 12 Mar, 2016 Lead RP
with lee
with lee
Hidden 11 Oct, 2015 Lead RP
Alex Winter 27 Sep, 2015 Lead β Brilliant climbing all the way - worth getting midged to buggery for. Hot and sweaty afternoon, which made the slopery grovel at the top a bit exciting. Had previously checked where the holds were though.
with Jake and Alice
Brilliant climbing all the way - worth getting midged to buggery for. Hot and sweaty afternoon, which made the slopery grovel at the top a bit exciting. Had previously checked where the holds were though.
with Jake and Alice
Hidden 24 May, 2015 2nd dog
afern 23 May, 2015 2nd β
malx 14 May, 2015 Lead G/U fell off years ago. steady this time around, but fantastic!
fell off years ago. steady this time around, but fantastic!
Hidden 14 May, 2015 Lead dnf
Theo Moore - UKC and UKH 13 May, 2015 Lead G/U excellent route. first route I've fallen off and been glad cos it means I get another go! no messing around with side runners or starts.
excellent route. first route I've fallen off and been glad cos it means I get another go! no messing around with side runners or starts.
robertmctague 12 May, 2015 Lead O/S Cracker. Proper E4.
Cracker. Proper E4.
eel 9 Apr, 2015 2nd O/S
with Duncan
with Duncan
Hidden 1 Nov, 2014 Lead O/S
rurp 27 Oct, 2014 TR dog Doable but hard work, some gear. Need much more stamina
Doable but hard work, some gear. Need much more stamina
WB 26 Oct, 2014 Lead O/S put some runners in from the other route before committing to the start
put some runners in from the other route before committing to the start
markalmack 26 Oct, 2014 Lead G/U on will's gear.
with will-i-am-old-as-fuck, little tom
on will's gear.
with will-i-am-old-as-fuck, little tom
Oddjob 12 Oct, 2014 2nd dog Stiff start. Excellent Route.
with Tom
Stiff start. Excellent Route.
with Tom
mark20 9 May, 2014 Lead G/U Bottled it. 2nd go
Bottled it. 2nd go
Hidden 5 May, 2014 Lead
belay bunny turned bad 5 May, 2014 2nd
with Al Doig
with Al Doig
Ethan 22 Feb, 2014 Lead β
with Don Walker
with Don Walker
pipof747 14 Nov, 2013 Lead RP Great climb. Bad idea to warm up on it, got deadly pumped...
Great climb. Bad idea to warm up on it, got deadly pumped...
Hidden 21 Sep, 2013 2nd dnf
Lev 21 Sep, 2013 Lead dog
with Emma
with Emma
akhughes 12 Aug, 2013 Solo RP
quiffhanger 6 Jan, 2013 Lead dnf Wimped out of at the start. Then stuck a top-rope on it and v glad I didn't push on. It's not as easy as it looks after the boulder problem start. Will go back though, with a matt :)
Wimped out of at the start. Then stuck a top-rope on it and v glad I didn't push on. It's not as easy as it looks after the boulder problem start. Will go back though, with a matt :)
Hidden 28 Nov, 2012 Lead O/S
dannyboy83 7 Oct, 2012 Solo O/S Very good
Very good
Hidden 19 Nov, 2011 Lead O/S
hamer89 13 Nov, 2011 Lead O/S really good
really good
pie_eater_pete 24 Sep, 2011 Lead O/S Wicked route, Found the start hard, but got it after afew goes (quite sweaty.) All good after that.
Wicked route, Found the start hard, but got it after afew goes (quite sweaty.) All good after that.
richardr 23 Jul, 2011 Lead dnf Got up to the first gear break and couldn't take a hand off to place gear. Retreated (jumped) rather than going higher. Superb route, one of the best i've been on!
Got up to the first gear break and couldn't take a hand off to place gear. Retreated (jumped) rather than going higher. Superb route, one of the best i've been on!
Brown 14 Jul, 2011 Lead
with Lilifa
with Lilifa
Hidden 3 Jun, 2011 Lead O/S
DaveFidler 3 Jun, 2011 Lead RP 1st RP
1st RP
Hidden 29 May, 2011 2nd
DaveFidler 29 May, 2011 Lead dog Got to top section just before rest & slumped on gear. Must go back.
Got to top section just before rest & slumped on gear. Must go back.
Mike_Hayes 29 May, 2011 Lead O/S
tuftynick 15 May, 2011 2nd rpt
Rich Cross - Alpine Guides 15 May, 2011 Lead
Hidden 24 Apr, 2011 TR dog
Joe Costello 17 Apr, 2011 Lead rpt Brilliant route. Certainly one of the best things I've done.
with Matt
Brilliant route. Certainly one of the best things I've done.
with Matt
Hidden 16 Apr, 2011 Lead dog
PeteH 7 Mar, 2011 2nd RP Fluffed the boulder start on first go, got it clean second go, will be back to lead. Tough, but awesome!
with highlux, Chris Fox
Fluffed the boulder start on first go, got it clean second go, will be back to lead. Tough, but awesome!
with highlux, Chris Fox
highlux 7 Mar, 2011 Lead O/S Mega classic. Committing at the start. Climbed with two cams preplaced (but unclipped) in the first good break. Had one false start and jumped off before the break, then went for it...
with Chris Fox, Pete Hart
Mega classic. Committing at the start. Climbed with two cams preplaced (but unclipped) in the first good break. Had one false start and jumped off before the break, then went for it...
with Chris Fox, Pete Hart
sparkass 12 Sep, 2010 Lead O/S Full value.
with Emerson Clark
Full value.
with Emerson Clark
AdamjBailes 3 Jun, 2010 Lead β flash
flash
Milne 15 Apr, 2010 TR dog 2 rests, went through crux ok, tired and wrong handed at top. magical route, to be led soon.
2 rests, went through crux ok, tired and wrong handed at top. magical route, to be led soon.
Boy 4 Apr, 2010 -
with Nige Kershaw
with Nige Kershaw
Hidden 1 Dec, 2009 Lead
Lev 15 Nov, 2009 Lead dnf Bouldered the start with 2 falls, then made it to the break on the third atempt. Placed gear but fell off on the next move, too tired to try again.
with Emma
Bouldered the start with 2 falls, then made it to the break on the third atempt. Placed gear but fell off on the next move, too tired to try again.
with Emma
feilx 31 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
with james d
with james d
csd23 ?Oct, 2009 TR dog Incredible moves, something to aspire to!
with Mark Bunyard
Incredible moves, something to aspire to!
with Mark Bunyard
mattyork2 27 Sep, 2009 Lead A brilliant route which gives so much awesome and sustained climbing. First Grit E4. Very safe and totally enjoable if climbed in this fashion. Ground Up ascent with preplaced cams in Fisherman break from neighbouring HS above the bouldery start.
with Johnny Richard
A brilliant route which gives so much awesome and sustained climbing. First Grit E4. Very safe and totally enjoable if climbed in this fashion. Ground Up ascent with preplaced cams in Fisherman break from neighbouring HS above the bouldery start.
with Johnny Richard
Tom Briggs 26 Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
with Nic and Katherine
with Nic and Katherine
Hidden 29 Mar, 2009 Lead O/S
nige 15 Mar, 2009 Lead O/S
with mark hounslea
with mark hounslea
Hidden 20 Nov, 2007 Lead O/S
Hidden 4 Nov, 2007 Lead O/S
Ram MkiV 4 Nov, 2007 Lead after alex and on his gear. Tricky first arete took a couple of goes.
with alex b
after alex and on his gear. Tricky first arete took a couple of goes.
with alex b
Hidden 20 Oct, 2007 Lead rpt
Alex Mason 16 Apr, 2007 Lead O/S First proper E4 and what a good one it was. totally involved all the way. slapping at a scary height above the ground and grovelling onto a bland top. beautiful.
First proper E4 and what a good one it was. totally involved all the way. slapping at a scary height above the ground and grovelling onto a bland top. beautiful.
UKB Shark 3 Jan, 2005 Lead O/S came in from the right
with Mark Hundleby
came in from the right
with Mark Hundleby
phil64 ??, 2005 Lead O/S Awesome, very good climbing tough start and hard finish.
with tim neill
Awesome, very good climbing tough start and hard finish.
with tim neill
Dave Musgrove Jnr ?Mar, 2003 Lead O/S
with Kirilee
with Kirilee
Ropeboy 14 Apr, 2002 Lead
Mark Davies PK ??, 2002 TR O/S
sadams 9 Sep, 2001 Lead O/S
with Eric Hildrew
with Eric Hildrew
tuftynick ??, 2000 Lead
Jon Read ?Jun, 1998 Lead dog
with Janet Crowhurst
with Janet Crowhurst
Neil McA 21 May, 1995 2nd O/S
with pete barrass
with pete barrass
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