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A bruising battle for most. From a big thread, hand traverse the greasy flange and finger-jam the roof-crack. Once established on the front face things ease instantly. A VS from when grades were random, and upgraded (yet again) by popular demand! © Rockfax

FA. Joe Brown 1950

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Gritstone's finest gruesome and damaging struggles, Wide Cracks, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Ron Fawcetts 100 extremes in a day, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans, Joe Brown's Three-Star Grit-List, Pete's 150 Peak Extremes, Joe Browns Shops 50th Anniversary Celebration Routes List, The Froggatt to Black Rocks 3 Star Pilgrimage, Definitive *** Peak Grit, Froggat and Curbar Big Cracks, Froggatt Cracks (Eastern Grit recommended ticklist), UK Dream Cracks

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JR 23 Apr, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Comparatively easier than tower chimney at stanage.
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βeta: Comparatively easier than tower chimney at stanage.
fattybiscuits 5 Mar, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: mate - hands off rest left foot on slab, back of head smearing on the gritstone behind... and no jams necessary for sure!
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βeta: mate - hands off rest left foot on slab, back of head smearing on the gritstone behind... and no jams necessary for sure!
UKB Shark 4 Jan, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Friend 5 useful as is creative thinking.
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βeta: Friend 5 useful as is creative thinking.
LakesWinter 5 Mar, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: Why isn't Cave Crawl in the guide? It is truely unique amongst all the routes of the peak in making you think you'll die by getting stuck and never getting out again. This, added to the rabbit from a hole experience of popping out of the top of the innards of Swimmers Chimney makes it well worth doing!
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βeta: Why isn't Cave Crawl in the guide? It is truely unique amongst all the routes of the peak in making you think you'll die by getting stuck and never getting out again. This, added to the rabbit from a hole experience of popping out of the top of the innards of Swimmers Chimney makes it well worth doing!
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JendeHoxar 22 Jun 2nd dog
with Flavio
with Flavio
Flavio 22 Jun Lead rpt #29 Final victory route of the CC JamFest. While the Peak and Cornish contingent were battling amongst themselves - running around the whole bloody district - we snuck in the back, slowly. We walked, had a respectable lunch break with coffee and ended up bringing the trophy jar home - somewhere between Yorkshire and Lancashire, where it should be. Sweet jams all day long as well as on toast the next day... the breakfast of champions! :)
#29 Final victory route of the CC JamFest. While the Peak and Cornish contingent were battling amongst themselves - running around the whole bloody district - we snuck in the back, slowly. We walked, had a respectable lunch break with coffee and ended up bringing the trophy jar home - somewhere between Yorkshire and Lancashire, where it should be. Sweet jams all day long as well as on toast the next day... the breakfast of champions! :)
George Frisby 7 Apr Lead rpt Clean whilst placing gear on lead today, all about working out those rests and then it's ok to get through the crux. Used a size 5 cam today rather than a size 6, much better!
Clean whilst placing gear on lead today, all about working out those rests and then it's ok to get through the crux. Used a size 5 cam today rather than a size 6, much better!
countchalkula 7 Apr Lead RP
George Frisby 31 Mar Lead G/U Got a Size 6 BD cam stuck in the roof after the rope dragged it up into a constriction in the crack. If anyone can extract it they can keep it. Need to use a Size 5 instead next time. Apart from that was a great route. If you can reach the fist jams and the end of the lip and have big gear to place in the roof then seems much more like a well protected hard E1 than an E3. Was a bit disappointed that there is a sequence that doesn't require inverted legs and butterfly jams like I was trying at the start.
Got a Size 6 BD cam stuck in the roof after the rope dragged it up into a constriction in the crack. If anyone can extract it they can keep it. Need to use a Size 5 instead next time. Apart from that was a great route. If you can reach the fist jams and the end of the lip and have big gear to place in the roof then seems much more like a well protected hard E1 than an E3. Was a bit disappointed that there is a sequence that doesn't require inverted legs and butterfly jams like I was trying at the start.
rowland penty 31 Mar Lead dog
danieljames123 28 Oct, 2018 Lead dog A solid bruising battle. Hung off my bd#4 under the roof crack, but got back on in the same stance I left. ideally would repeat with sling, BD#5,4,3,(3),2
A solid bruising battle. Hung off my bd#4 under the roof crack, but got back on in the same stance I left. ideally would repeat with sling, BD#5,4,3,(3),2
dom94 20 Oct, 2018 Lead G/U Took about five goes before I figured it out. Taping up is vital!
Took about five goes before I figured it out. Taping up is vital!
Hidden 19 Oct, 2018 Lead rpt
Gordon W 30 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S absolutely brutal
absolutely brutal
Toby 12 May, 2018 Lead dog One fall/rest on gear.
with Nate
One fall/rest on gear.
with Nate
Hidden 13 May, 2017 Lead dog
Theeni 13 May, 2017 2nd
with Mike Dudley
with Mike Dudley
bryce.dorin 7 May, 2017 2nd dog so hard
with Will, Felix
so hard
with Will, Felix
WilliamRupp 7 May, 2017 Lead G/U
with FelixJT
with FelixJT
FelixJT 7 May, 2017 2nd
Mike505 22 Apr, 2017 Lead G/U If you know your gritstone and you have a large cam or two this may only feel like a traditional E1. I failed to find the obvious jam first time round. Pulled the ropes and went again (It'll be E3 if anyone asks me)
If you know your gritstone and you have a large cam or two this may only feel like a traditional E1. I failed to find the obvious jam first time round. Pulled the ropes and went again (It'll be E3 if anyone asks me)
Rory_Cummings_NI 24 Mar, 2017 Lead O/S
with Andy Moles
with Andy Moles
Andy Moles 24 Mar, 2017 Lead
with Rory
with Rory
greed178 ??, 2017 Lead
ferdia 11 Sep, 2016 Lead O/S wow - very 3d
with Tessa Lyons, Ben Silvestre
wow - very 3d
with Tessa Lyons, Ben Silvestre
Hidden 18 Jun, 2016 Lead dog
Flavio 14 May, 2016 Lead O/S E3!? No, just a "proper HVS"!
E3!? No, just a "proper HVS"!
w-watson 14 May, 2016 Lead dog
with Flavio
with Flavio
soph 5 Apr, 2016 Lead rpt
with Prerna Dangi, Ruth Smitton
with Prerna Dangi, Ruth Smitton
deacondeacon 13 Mar, 2016 Lead Pretty sure I've tried this before. Felt fine today Although wet and slimy up to the thread it was clean as a whistle after that.
Pretty sure I've tried this before. Felt fine today Although wet and slimy up to the thread it was clean as a whistle after that.
Hidden 13 Mar, 2016 Lead dog
AsleepOnBelay 11 Apr, 2015 2nd dnf
with ian
with ian
Haydn Jones 31 Mar, 2015 Lead O/S
Andy Peak 1 30 Mar, 2015 2nd rpt very very good
with Hayden Jones
very very good
with Hayden Jones
Hannes B 5 Nov, 2014 Lead G/U g-up 1 fall
with Neil C
g-up 1 fall
with Neil C
morganator 2 Nov, 2014 2nd
with Stuart Johnson, Ross Mckerchar
with Stuart Johnson, Ross Mckerchar
adam 24 2 Nov, 2014 Lead dog Brutal, got boxed placing the gear, mate swapped in to finish the lead then i did it on second.
Brutal, got boxed placing the gear, mate swapped in to finish the lead then i did it on second.
Stuart Johnston 2 Nov, 2014 Lead O/S Quality. Physical.
with adam 24
Quality. Physical.
with adam 24
Hidden 1 Nov, 2014 2nd rpt
Hidden 28 Oct, 2014 2nd dog
petegunn 28 Oct, 2014 Lead
Nick Russell 25 Oct, 2014 Lead dog Brutal. Aided through the roof.
with zcsharp
Brutal. Aided through the roof.
with zcsharp
zcsharp 25 Oct, 2014 2nd What a beast of a route.
What a beast of a route.
harry_lewis 19 Oct, 2014 Lead G/U
robgixer 12 Oct, 2014 Lead dog
Rachel Slater 21 Sep, 2014 Lead β Belayed Tim on it first but had to race through the crux. Easier for the small which makes a nice change on the grit.
Belayed Tim on it first but had to race through the crux. Easier for the small which makes a nice change on the grit.
tim newton 21 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
mike.rigby 27 Jul, 2014 2nd
with Rob Edwards
with Rob Edwards
French Erick 26 Jul, 2014 Lead β Fell on the crux. Pulled ropes went back for a full blown tussle!
with Alex Heude
Fell on the crux. Pulled ropes went back for a full blown tussle!
with Alex Heude
Matt Cooke 1 Dec, 2013 Lead O/S
with Scott, Sam Taylor
with Scott, Sam Taylor
Hidden 28 Apr, 2013 TR rpt
Joel_e 28 Apr, 2013 TR dnf Made it to the edge of the cave roof but could not get out of the cave on to the outside crack.
Made it to the edge of the cave roof but could not get out of the cave on to the outside crack.
bclifton ??, 2013 Lead
andi turner ??, 2013 -
Hidden 22 Sep, 2012 Lead O/S
Hidden 22 Sep, 2012 Lead
littleluke 16 Sep, 2012 2nd β
pie_eater_pete 14 Aug, 2012 Lead
Hidden 18 May, 2012 Lead dog
Andy Peak 1 18 Mar, 2012 Lead Hardest lead to date very pleased to get it first go
with random
Hardest lead to date very pleased to get it first go
with random
Pete Graham 6 Mar, 2012 Lead
with Luke Porter
with Luke Porter
maddy.c ??, 2012 -
tuftynick 16 Oct, 2011 Lead
Dave Musgrove Jnr 16 Oct, 2011 AltLd
Ally Smith 15 Oct, 2011 Lead O/S
with Naomi
with Naomi
tonanf ?Aug, 2011 -
with Phil L
with Phil L
Hidden 2 Jul, 2011 Lead β
Nick1812P 2 Jul, 2011 2nd dog
Graeme Hammond 6 Jun, 2011 Lead rpt Classic Stuff!!! So close a few weeks ago, clean today, trashed and bleeding hands were worthwhile :)
Classic Stuff!!! So close a few weeks ago, clean today, trashed and bleeding hands were worthwhile :)
Jonathan Hall 16 Apr, 2011 Lead Felt geasier than a McDonalds, one rest under the roof then arm jammed away. Surprised how little jamming there was really.
with RM199
Felt geasier than a McDonalds, one rest under the roof then arm jammed away. Surprised how little jamming there was really.
with RM199
tuftynick 6 Apr, 2011 2nd
Rich Cross - Alpine Guides 6 Apr, 2011 Lead
Brown 2 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
with Oska
with Oska
thomasadixon 23 Mar, 2011 Lead dog One rest under the roof...shouldn't have really just wussed out. Managed it tho an for someone who can't jam that's enough!
One rest under the roof...shouldn't have really just wussed out. Managed it tho an for someone who can't jam that's enough!
BeccaSnowden 23 Mar, 2011 2nd dog Suprisingly fun!
Suprisingly fun!
Euan Strachan 20 Mar, 2011 Lead dnf Backed off. Will come back with a cam of the right size!
Backed off. Will come back with a cam of the right size!
Hidden 19 Mar, 2011 Lead dnf
llamaglama 19 Mar, 2011 2nd
highlux 9 Jan, 2011 - Desperate!
with Martin Veale
Desperate!
with Martin Veale
mwatson ??, 2011 -
walts4 ??, 2011 -
AsleepOnBelay 28 Oct, 2010 2nd dog Superb, as much fun as it is brutal, I've got jamming grazes on my back and head to prove it. Slithered off doing the moves to get round on to the face. Coming back to lead this sometime.
Superb, as much fun as it is brutal, I've got jamming grazes on my back and head to prove it. Slithered off doing the moves to get round on to the face. Coming back to lead this sometime.
Rich Guest 28 Oct, 2010 Lead O/S Another stella crack-a-thon. Some wild contortions required.. Surprisingly, I managed to stay in reasonable control? Kind of felt like a dog that was constantly barking but never bit!
Another stella crack-a-thon. Some wild contortions required.. Surprisingly, I managed to stay in reasonable control? Kind of felt like a dog that was constantly barking but never bit!
Hidden 28 Oct, 2010 Lead O/S
freddieneame10 ?Sep, 2010 Lead dnf Nails! the start is well strenous and fairly technical. Can't wait to give it another go when i'm fresh
with jonathan jones
Nails! the start is well strenous and fairly technical. Can't wait to give it another go when i'm fresh
with jonathan jones
Hidden 1 Aug, 2010 Lead
James Oakes 24 Apr, 2010 Lead G/U First E3, got it second go!
First E3, got it second go!
gregoritos 23 Apr, 2010 Lead O/S dont need to jam the roof despite guidebook description. E2 or E1 with big cam in roof.
dont need to jam the roof despite guidebook description. E2 or E1 with big cam in roof.
Drew M ??, 2010 Lead
Hidden 5 Dec, 2009 Lead
feilx 31 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
with james d
with james d
dannyboy83 18 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
with Dad
with Dad
Hidden 12 Sep, 2009 2nd
Cat G ?Sep, 2009 2nd
Hidden 23 Aug, 2009 Lead RP
mel holmes 8 Apr, 2009 Lead dog
with Alex@home
with Alex@home
Hidden 15 Mar, 2009 Lead
chris sm 25 Oct, 2008 Lead dnf
with Pippa Froggatt
with Pippa Froggatt
tumbling wizard ?Oct, 2008 -
datoon 13 Jul, 2008 2nd O/S
with S
with S
WB 13 Mar, 2008 Lead O/S
with Jim
with Jim
phil64 ??, 2008 2nd With Pete and Jan
With Pete and Jan
Hidden 26 Sep, 2007 Lead O/S
Oceanic ?May, 2007 -
Hidden 21 Apr, 2007 Lead O/S
climbingrick ?Apr, 2007 Lead dnf Errr nearly died!
Errr nearly died!
jonnyboy 17 Mar, 2007 Lead O/S
with robman
with robman
robman 17 Mar, 2007 2nd O/S
Hidden ??, 2007 -
tumbling wizard 16 Oct, 2006 Lead dog
Castleclimber ?Sep, 2006 Lead dog
with Fred Lyon
with Fred Lyon
John Kettle 30 Jul, 2006 Lead O/S
UndercoverElephant ?May, 2006 Lead dog Damn, had to fail sometime. Cleaning the shoes after leaving the mud of the cave is a hard move. Doomed to failure thereafter. Practice those knee-holds, and bring along your big friends to fight this one.
with S
Damn, had to fail sometime. Cleaning the shoes after leaving the mud of the cave is a hard move. Doomed to failure thereafter. Practice those knee-holds, and bring along your big friends to fight this one.
with S
Daniel Armitage 6 Mar, 2006 Lead RP
dan gibson ??, 2006 -
Boy ??, 2006 -
Hidden ?Aug, 2005 Lead dog
UKB Shark 3 Jan, 2005 Lead O/S
with Mark Hundleby
with Mark Hundleby
Tom Briggs ??, 2005 -
Hidden ??, 2000 -
Hidden 12 Jul, 1999 2nd
ste_d 18 Jul, 1996 Lead O/S
Mike_d78 18 Jul, 1996 2nd
with ste_d
with ste_d
crossleysm ??, 1995 Lead O/S
Hidden ??, 1995 Lead
Mike_d78 11 Mar, 1994 Lead O/S
with ste_d
with ste_d
Hidden ??, 1992 Lead
Chris Ebbutt ??, 1990 Lead dog
Hidden ??, 1980 Lead
Hidden ??, 1980 Lead RP
clanger ??, 1972 -
FATBOYFAT ??, 1972 -
uphillnow ??, 1970 -
mikej 6 May, 1968 TR dnf
with Graham Evans
with Graham Evans
mikej 17 Jul, 1966 2nd dnf
with Keith Gregson
with Keith Gregson
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