12m.

Rockfax Description
The classic crack splitting the centre of the buttress eases with height. You can also jam it if you prefer. © Rockfax

Ticklists

ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List

Feedback

UserDateNotes
Si dH 16 Aug, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: book reckons its easier to do the initial crux section on the left! Complete Rubbish! (definitely easier to layaway to the right on lower section)
βeta?
Show beta
βeta: book reckons its easier to do the initial crux section on the left! Complete Rubbish! (definitely easier to layaway to the right on lower section)
Simon Caldwell 1 Jun, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Quite why anyone would want to jam this superb layback crack is beyond me!
βeta?
Show beta
βeta: Quite why anyone would want to jam this superb layback crack is beyond me!
Login as Existing User to add your feedback

Logged Ascents

User Date Style Notes & Partners
Hidden 26 Jul 2nd
Blod 26 Jul Lead rpt
with Ellie17
with Ellie17
Yorkshireal 17 Jul TR O/S
Wizzy 3 Jul Solo
kishanvekaria 30 Jun Lead O/S
SandyJJS 30 Jun 2nd O/S
RayG 29 Jun 2nd
Quaidy Quaid 29 Jun Lead O/S
with RayG
with RayG
tom_lewis89 22 May Lead
Jackspratt 19 Apr Lead O/S
HannahGo 5 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S
with Jeremy Godden
with Jeremy Godden
Blod 18 Jul, 2018 Lead rpt Lower crack needed cleaning to remove accumulated dirt. A very good climb.
with Tony S
Lower crack needed cleaning to remove accumulated dirt. A very good climb.
with Tony S
nelstrop 14 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S
with RJP
with RJP
Montecore 14 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
with Richard Lizzimore
with Richard Lizzimore
Hidden 14 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
smoreda 24 Jun, 2018 Lead
mountaingoatgirl 24 Jun, 2018 2nd
Duncan Beard 7 May, 2018 Lead O/S Climbed in mistake for Answer Crack (partners fault!). Only seemed around Severe anyway though. Mostly juggy handholds except for one move where slight jam required.
with Pawul
Climbed in mistake for Answer Crack (partners fault!). Only seemed around Severe anyway though. Mostly juggy handholds except for one move where slight jam required.
with Pawul
Hidden 7 May, 2018 2nd rpt
pawel suhy 7 May, 2018 2nd O/S
with Duncan PCC
with Duncan PCC
KristianBirchall 6 May, 2018 Lead O/S
with Claire Chadderton
with Claire Chadderton
mrphilipoldham 20 Apr, 2018 Lead rpt Brilliant route but seriously people, get up here and climb it! It needs traffic, disappointingly green.
Brilliant route but seriously people, get up here and climb it! It needs traffic, disappointingly green.
Withey3 28 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
admackie 27 Aug, 2017 Lead delicate and pleasant
with Palmer
delicate and pleasant
with Palmer
Hidden 27 Aug, 2017 2nd
jcdavy 20 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
with Lucy Sylvester
with Lucy Sylvester
Paulo H 9 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
with Nick, Norb, with Stu
with Nick, Norb, with Stu
Hidden 6 Aug, 2017 2nd
Hidden 6 Aug, 2017 2nd O/S
Hidden 6 Aug, 2017 Lead
Hidden 18 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
dan_o_b 14 Jun, 2017 Lead rpt
buczko 14 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 14 Jun, 2017 Lead rpt
Hidden 14 Jun, 2017 2nd O/S
mmmhumous 29 Apr, 2017 Lead O/S
with Lilly88
with Lilly88
Hidden 29 Apr, 2017 2nd
FelixJT ?Nov, 2016 Lead
with max farnsworth
with max farnsworth
George Frisby 19 Jul, 2016 2nd rpt
steve_gibbs 19 Jul, 2016 Lead O/S
mrphilipoldham 13 Jul, 2016 2nd O/S
with JJBB
with JJBB
John Geoffrey 22 Jun, 2016 2nd O/S
with FDixon
with FDixon
FDixon 22 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
Caiti 18 Jun, 2016 2nd O/S
lloydrees91 18 Jun, 2016 Lead
with Caiti
with Caiti
JimboWizbo 7 Jun, 2016 2nd
with Paul1
with Paul1
V1c 5 Jun, 2016 2nd
Jules Lane 5 Jun, 2016 Lead rpt
with Mynydd Paul Justin
with Mynydd Paul Justin
Hidden 5 Jun, 2016 2nd O/S
George Frisby 5 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
with V1c
with V1c
stratandrew 27 Sep, 2015 2nd
with dan_o_b
with dan_o_b
dan_o_b 27 Sep, 2015 Lead rpt
Duncan Zerafa 27 Sep, 2015 2nd O/S
with dan_o_b
with dan_o_b
Hidden 24 Aug, 2015 Lead
Alex Whittaker 15 Aug, 2015 2nd
with payeo20
with payeo20
payeo20 15 Aug, 2015 Lead O/S
with Alex W
with Alex W
Hidden 8 Aug, 2015 2nd
Hidden 8 Aug, 2015 Lead
Becky E 8 Aug, 2015 2nd O/S
john max 8 Aug, 2015 Lead
with Becky E
with Becky E
Simonfarfaraway 25 Jul, 2015 Lead
with Cliff Brown
with Cliff Brown
Shaw Brown 25 Jul, 2015 Lead
judith neaves 25 Jul, 2015 2nd
Hidden 23 Jul, 2015 2nd
bryce.dorin 23 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S
db79 27 Jun, 2015 2nd O/S
BnB 12 Jun, 2015 -
Hidden 27 May, 2015 2nd
Brown 27 May, 2015 Solo
with Stu
with Stu
ChrisVickers 27 May, 2015 Lead O/S
CKegan 13 May, 2015 2nd dog Fell twice unfortunately, think I tried to rush it a bit. MVS in guide book.
with Stevie
Fell twice unfortunately, think I tried to rush it a bit. MVS in guide book.
with Stevie
stratandrew 13 May, 2015 Lead O/S
with Dave Wylie
with Dave Wylie
Hidden 2 May, 2015 2nd O/S
Hidden 2 May, 2015 Lead rpt
lloydrees91 12 Oct, 2014 Lead O/S
with caiti
with caiti
sus 8 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
jimbonfire 24 Aug, 2014 -
Luke Jones 3 Aug, 2014 Lead O/S
with Freshprintce, LMC
with Freshprintce, LMC
Hidden 3 Aug, 2014 Lead O/S
timjones 27 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
with Simonj
with Simonj
Simonj 27 Jul, 2014 2nd O/S
with tim jones
with tim jones
Hidden 11 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
jakebrown 11 Jul, 2014 2nd O/S
Hidden 18 Jun, 2014 2nd O/S
Rob84 17 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
with Pidg
with Pidg
K Mckay 17 May, 2014 Lead O/S
with Paul Gibbison
with Paul Gibbison
pog100 5 May, 2014 2nd
with Cath Walton, Gilly Markham
with Cath Walton, Gilly Markham
PeteWilson 28 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S easy, pleasant and balancy, really good route!
with Bob
easy, pleasant and balancy, really good route!
with Bob
snapperdan 8 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
karlb 26 Aug, 2013 2nd dog We did this route thinking it was answer crack - Doh - no wonder it was hard!
We did this route thinking it was answer crack - Doh - no wonder it was hard!
chrisgaynon69 26 Aug, 2013 Lead
with karl bamford
with karl bamford
blackholesun 25 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
timcedwards 14 Aug, 2013 2nd
with rockman
with rockman
rockman 14 Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
Dan Mckinlay ?Aug, 2013 Lead O/S
Siobhan McGowan 20 Jul, 2013 2nd
Montecore 20 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
with Richard Lizzimore
with Richard Lizzimore
rfdl100 20 Jul, 2013 2nd O/S
with Rikki
with Rikki
Hidden 20 Jul, 2013 2nd
Hidden 20 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
j.buckley87 16 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
bwestwood 15 Jul, 2013 Lead
Darron 7 Jul, 2013 -
BruceW 7 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
with bectodd
with bectodd
Hidden 6 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 6 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 6 Jul, 2013 2nd O/S
Legionreturns ?Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 8 Jun, 2013 2nd
Joe.Elliott1 8 Jun, 2013 Lead
jorge1983 ?Aug, 2012 Lead O/S
Hoyes 29 May, 2012 2nd O/S
JEP 29 May, 2012 Lead O/S
Andy Hardy 29 May, 2012 2nd
David Kay 29 May, 2012 2nd
with JEP
with JEP
markblair 26 May, 2012 Lead O/S Nice delicate moves at the bottom and eases considerable higher up.
with Alison Dixon
Nice delicate moves at the bottom and eases considerable higher up.
with Alison Dixon
vix 23 May, 2012 Lead O/S
BenedictIEP 23 May, 2012 2nd O/S
with vix, J25
with vix, J25
Jules Lane ?May, 2012 Lead O/S Lovely route.
with Hoyes
Lovely route.
with Hoyes
Steve J P 21 Aug, 2011 2nd
Bernie Wylde 21 Aug, 2011 Lead
Phil T 25 Jul, 2011 Lead O/S
with Rick, Helen
with Rick, Helen
Hidden 3 Jul, 2011 Solo
Hidden 3 Jul, 2011 Solo O/S
Hidden 19 Jun, 2011 Lead O/S
Hidden 19 Jun, 2011 2nd O/S
five 21 May, 2011 Lead O/S
with AV
with AV
mattmu 11 May, 2011 2nd O/S
Tom Stapleton 11 May, 2011 2nd O/S
grubes 11 May, 2011 Lead O/S Nice Route low crux. Low in the grade imo
with chloe, Emma Casey, mattmu, Tom Stapleton
Nice Route low crux. Low in the grade imo
with chloe, Emma Casey, mattmu, Tom Stapleton
Hidden ??, 2011 Solo
Dave Franklin 5 Sep, 2010 2nd rpt
stimpey 30 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
with Pete, Davina
with Pete, Davina
petegunn 30 Aug, 2010 2nd
with Davina & Steve
with Davina & Steve
Hidden 30 Aug, 2010 2nd O/S
vincentchopper 18 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 25 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 25 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 25 Jul, 2010 2nd
Jay C 25 Jul, 2010 2nd O/S
with Clay C
with Clay C
Rog Wilko 25 Jul, 2010 Lead
with Rachel Barton
with Rachel Barton
climbing_goose 7 Jul, 2010 TR O/S
with mark whitmarsh
with mark whitmarsh
Hidden 6 Jul, 2010 Solo rpt
Hidden 28 Jun, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 20 Jun, 2010 Lead rpt
Hidden 17 Jun, 2010 Lead
Hidden 16 Jun, 2010 Lead O/S
WillCass 16 Jun, 2010 2nd
with Charlie, Si Withington
with Charlie, Si Withington
Hidden 5 Jun, 2010 2nd O/S
Rob Davies 5 Jun, 2010 2nd
with Phil A
with Phil A
ayuplass 31 May, 2010 2nd O/S
with miles
with miles
Hidden 22 May, 2010 2nd
john.gaffney 24 Apr, 2010 Lead
with Ed Arnett
with Ed Arnett
reubensampson 17 Oct, 2009 Lead O/S
with Dan Peers
with Dan Peers
peggy_on_the_rocks 20 Sep, 2009 2nd
with Raho
with Raho
Graeme Hammond 13 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S
shed_hed 13 Sep, 2009 2nd
Simonj 22 Aug, 2009 Lead O/S
heidavey 18 Aug, 2009 Lead O/S Brilliant climb! Reckon the grade is spot on.
Brilliant climb! Reckon the grade is spot on.
red.stiletto 18 Aug, 2009 2nd O/S
with heidavey
with heidavey
Pero 15 Aug, 2009 Lead
Hidden 9 Aug, 2009 Lead
embob 9 Aug, 2009 2nd Lovely! Speed climbed due to the descent of midges.
with alik b
Lovely! Speed climbed due to the descent of midges.
with alik b
cem 8 Aug, 2009 Lead rpt
with John Evans
with John Evans
petegruf 8 Aug, 2009 Lead O/S
with blaithin h
with blaithin h
ste_d 28 Jun, 2009 Solo rpt
ste_d 16 Jun, 2009 Solo rpt
Richie Rich 14 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
with Nick M
with Nick M
Goody 9 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
with Margaret Bowyer
with Margaret Bowyer
Rob Jarratt 9 Jun, 2009 Lead
with Andy Crawley, Julie Hardie
with Andy Crawley, Julie Hardie
Hidden 9 Jun, 2009 2nd
Hidden 8 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
doogstrue 31 May, 2009 TR
with phil & andy
with phil & andy
tanssop 31 May, 2009 Lead O/S Lovely climbing
with Andy & Paul
Lovely climbing
with Andy & Paul
SteWatkins ?May, 2009 -
ste_d 26 Apr, 2009 Solo rpt
jcurley 2 Apr, 2009 2nd rpt
colin milton 2 Apr, 2009 Lead
with jcurley
with jcurley
Hidden 20 Sep, 2008 -
johnwilson123 ?Jul, 2008 -
with paul
with paul
stuckonarock 10 Jun, 2008 Lead O/S
with Matthew
with Matthew
OffshoreAndy 10 Jun, 2008 2nd
with UKC Alex
with UKC Alex
Matthallinan 10 Jun, 2008 Solo
Hidden 10 Jun, 2008 Lead O/S
ste_d 8 Jun, 2008 Solo rpt
godusty 6 Jun, 2008 Lead dnf
with CLAIRE RICHARDSON
with CLAIRE RICHARDSON
Hidden 24 May, 2008 Lead O/S
nmoysey ??, 2008 Lead
with Ben Vickers
with Ben Vickers
rbalmer 7 Oct, 2007 Lead O/S
with Chris Owen
with Chris Owen
Stuart Wildman 8 Sep, 2007 Lead O/S
with Rob Sykes
with Rob Sykes
jcurley 9 Aug, 2007 Lead O/S
with Harry
with Harry
Ian Parnell ?Aug, 2007 2nd O/S
with Jon Winter
with Jon Winter
Reaver2k 9 Jun, 2007 Lead O/S Another brilliant climb I've had on my list since I first visited Dovestones. Found the moves into the cave thing a little difficult for 4b, spent quite some time trying to work out a sequence. In the end I pulled on a odd sidepull, facing away from me on my left and a sidepull in the crack and trying to find some purchase for my feet (couldn't find alot) then reaching for the sloper/jug and sorting myself out - 4c? After that I placed a couple of pieces of protection and proceded to get the (wrong?) sequence on the laybacking, with lots of foot switching awkward positions, I am sure if I repeated and thought about it abit better it wouldnt feelt that bad! Abit like Stanages Heaven crack only a sharper flaring edge! Yummy. Went up the final arete after aswell, bit of an anti-climax so I downclimbed so I could make a better belay.
Another brilliant climb I've had on my list since I first visited Dovestones. Found the moves into the cave thing a little difficult for 4b, spent quite some time trying to work out a sequence. In the end I pulled on a odd sidepull, facing away from me on my left and a sidepull in the crack and trying to find some purchase for my feet (couldn't find alot) then reaching for the sloper/jug and sorting myself out - 4c? After that I placed a couple of pieces of protection and proceded to get the (wrong?) sequence on the laybacking, with lots of foot switching awkward positions, I am sure if I repeated and thought about it abit better it wouldnt feelt that bad! Abit like Stanages Heaven crack only a sharper flaring edge! Yummy. Went up the final arete after aswell, bit of an anti-climax so I downclimbed so I could make a better belay.
Barry D 5 Jun, 2007 Lead
with George
with George
mje1398 29 Apr, 2007 Lead O/S
with John M
with John M
MeMeMe 11 Mar, 2007 2nd
with sandy
with sandy
Duncan I 1 Oct, 2006 Lead
with Steve Pardoe
with Steve Pardoe
Steve Pardoe 1 Oct, 2006 2nd Excellent, nice finger-lock at top of wall, final arete sensational
Excellent, nice finger-lock at top of wall, final arete sensational
alicia 12 Aug, 2006 Lead O/S
with Jamie
with Jamie
duncana 12 Aug, 2006 Lead Nice climbing.
with Pippa Archer
Nice climbing.
with Pippa Archer
Hidden 29 Jun, 2006 2nd
cem 11 Jun, 2006 2nd
with GrahamD
with GrahamD
Si dH 7 Aug, 2005 2nd rpt
with Gerhard
with Gerhard
lithos 13 Jul, 2005 Solo
Phil West 7 Aug, 2004 2nd rpt
with Wingnut
with Wingnut
Carl Smethurst 23 Jul, 2004 Lead O/S
with Gareth Mayhead
with Gareth Mayhead
Si dH ?Jul, 2004 Lead O/S
with Kane Chandler
with Kane Chandler
Michael Brown 24 Apr, 2004 2nd
Hidden 24 Apr, 2004 Lead
Michael Brown 10 Aug, 2003 Lead O/S
shaun walby 1 Aug, 2003 Lead O/S
with Phil West
with Phil West
jimshrimp 11 Jul, 2003 2nd
malc 1 Jun, 2003 Lead O/S
with Paul S
with Paul S
Simon Caldwell 31 May, 2003 Lead O/S
with Lemming
with Lemming
runestone 7 Jul, 2001 Lead O/S
with Blod
with Blod
Howard J 1 Aug, 2000 2nd
with Blod
with Blod
Blod 1 Aug, 2000 Lead rpt
Martin Bennett 1 Jul, 1998 -
with MT
with MT
Blod 16 May, 1998 Lead O/S
with Julie W
with Julie W
Phil West 10 Aug, 1997 Lead O/S
with Steve Wild
with Steve Wild
roncaves 20 Jul, 1996 Lead
with Lynn Bland
with Lynn Bland
barney@helmshore 13 Aug, 1995 Lead O/S
with helen bonner
with helen bonner
Roget 1 Jul, 1995 Solo O/S
Martin Bennett 12 May, 1994 -
with Barry Hurst
with Barry Hurst
StevePr ??, 1994 -
with Alan
with Alan
craig h 23 May, 1991 Solo O/S
Andy Say 30 Sep, 1989 Lead O/S
Pete Pozman 3 May, 1984 Solo O/S
Mark Kemball 20 Jun, 1982 Solo
DonnyDave 10 Aug, 1978 Lead
with Garry Hows
with Garry Hows
Hidden 2 Oct, 1973 Lead
Tom V ??, 1967 -
19 users have this on their wishlist
Voting
High VS
Mid VS
Low VS
High HS
Mid HS
Low HS
High S
Mid S
Low S
Votes cast 43
High 4c
Mid 4c
Low 4c
High 4b
Mid 4b
Low 4b
High 4a
Mid 4a
Low 4a
Votes cast 43
Votes cast 44
Style of ascent
Lead
Followed
Soloed
Toproped
Not Set
Onsighted
Repeated
Dogged
DNF
Not Set