18m.

Rockfax Description
Classic grit roundedness. Climb the centre of the face (nail-scratched!) passing a slot to reach a mantel onto a ledge. Follow the rounded cracks above to an awkward grasping exit. After completing the route double check the first ascent date! © Rockfax

FA. Siegfried Hertford 1910

Ticklists

Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs, ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List, Moorland Grit - The Essential Selection (Over The Moors), Peak Rock/2/ The Search For Difficulty Begins., Over the Moors 3 Star Magical Mystery Tour, Laycock's List - the original 1913 gritstone graded list, Definitive *** Peak Grit

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Iain Thow 19 Mar, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Definitely gets harder as you go up , quite a route for the date. Led it when it was given severe & came away suitably impressed. Classic grit roundedness.
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βeta: Definitely gets harder as you go up , quite a route for the date. Led it when it was given severe & came away suitably impressed. Classic grit roundedness.
Budge 20 Mar, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: The mantel onto the ledge is easy, the top move is desperate
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βeta: The mantel onto the ledge is easy, the top move is desperate
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Neil McA 22 Apr 2nd rpt Although I gave this 3 stars when writing this section of the guide 20 years ago, with hindsight and a repeat ascent it’s not a 3 star route but is an essential experience for historical reasons. The grade is dependent upon whether you finish direct up the final crack or sneak off right (naughty but nice).
with Jake McAdie
Although I gave this 3 stars when writing this section of the guide 20 years ago, with hindsight and a repeat ascent it’s not a 3 star route but is an essential experience for historical reasons. The grade is dependent upon whether you finish direct up the final crack or sneak off right (naughty but nice).
with Jake McAdie
MrFantastic 19 Apr, 2018 Solo O/S
Coel Hellier ?Apr, 2018 Lead
slab_happy 25 Jul, 2017 2nd
with Droyd
with Droyd
Droyd 25 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S Repetitive climbing up a series of ledges, meaning ankle-breaking potential throughout - thus seemed massively over-hyped. Couldn't be bothered with the top bit (overhanging, undercut, green crack that was sufficiently flared not to take gear) so walked around instead.
Repetitive climbing up a series of ledges, meaning ankle-breaking potential throughout - thus seemed massively over-hyped. Couldn't be bothered with the top bit (overhanging, undercut, green crack that was sufficiently flared not to take gear) so walked around instead.
RichT 1 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S
Allanfairfechan ??, 2016 TR
Justsomeclimber 4 Jul, 2015 Solo O/S As gritstone should be.
As gritstone should be.
al123 12 Oct, 2014 Solo
with Crew
with Crew
Hidden 17 Aug, 2014 2nd
bencole 17 Aug, 2014 Lead O/S
Brown 16 Jun, 2013 2nd
with Rob G
with Rob G
BTphonehome 1 Jun, 2013 Lead O/S
kasha_gregson 1 Jun, 2013 2nd O/S
j.buckley87 20 Apr, 2013 2nd O/S
alasdair19 ??, 2013 - lovely rob lead it, brilliant climbing
lovely rob lead it, brilliant climbing
Frank the Husky ??, 2013 -
deacondeacon 15 Nov, 2012 Lead O/S Really enjoyed this, just a little green in the middle.
Really enjoyed this, just a little green in the middle.
Graeme Hammond 1 Sep, 2012 Lead O/S Hard finish, some parts particularly wet and green still but this just made it more interesting. Good climb.
Hard finish, some parts particularly wet and green still but this just made it more interesting. Good climb.
Hidden 11 Aug, 2012 Lead
Rob Davies 28 Jul, 2012 Lead Cold, windy. Escaped R below final frustrating bulge as rain shower was imminent.
with Phil A
Cold, windy. Escaped R below final frustrating bulge as rain shower was imminent.
with Phil A
SteveHi 26 May, 2012 Lead O/S
with Sam Cooke
with Sam Cooke
Sam Cooke 26 May, 2012 2nd O/S
with SteveHi
with SteveHi
Jonathan Hall 19 Nov, 2011 2nd Good grit route, enjoyed the end.
with RM199
Good grit route, enjoyed the end.
with RM199
Mike Soulby 19 Nov, 2011 2nd O/S
with RM199
with RM199
simon mitchie 21 Sep, 2011 2nd j paxman lead
j paxman lead
Mr G 22 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
with bri
with bri
RM199 ??, 2011 Lead O/S
Hidden 23 May, 2010 2nd
Ropeboy 23 May, 2010 Lead awkward finish
awkward finish
Ken Taylor ??, 2010 -
Hidden 7 Nov, 2009 Solo
mark20 25 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
Hidden 24 May, 2009 Lead
HimTiggins 4 Aug, 2007 Lead O/S
Birdo ?Aug, 2006 Solo
Hidden 29 Jan, 2006 Lead O/S
DerwentDiluted 2 Oct, 2005 Lead
with Nicola Pettit
with Nicola Pettit
Budge 19 Mar, 2005 Lead dnf
with Neil Botterill, MG
with Neil Botterill, MG
Hidden 16 Aug, 2004 Lead O/S
John Eley ?Apr, 2003 Lead O/S
Hidden 12 Sep, 2002 Lead O/S
John H Bull (tcfka Bullybones) ?Aug, 1999 Lead
roncaves 16 Aug, 1998 Solo
Gordon Stainforth 4 Aug, 1996 2nd
with John Cutcliffe, Phil ---
with John Cutcliffe, Phil ---
Hidden 17 Jul, 1994 2nd
steveb2006 30 May, 1994 Solo While doing Edale Skyline walk
While doing Edale Skyline walk
Andy Say 22 May, 1993 Solo O/S
nickprior ??, 1992 Lead
with Joyce Ambrose
with Joyce Ambrose
Raggar 27 Oct, 1991 Lead β superb
with Chris B
superb
with Chris B
Rob Davies ?May, 1991 TR Top roped with shunt as I couldn't find anyone interested in walking up here
Top roped with shunt as I couldn't find anyone interested in walking up here
Iain Thow 30 May, 1988 Lead Soloed start in walking boots (5a, I now know) 12/4/87. Led with Bob during a gap in a 3 day stint selling tea/coffee etc at Downfall in aid of Edale MRT, superb bivvy by fall.
with Bob Lister
Soloed start in walking boots (5a, I now know) 12/4/87. Led with Bob during a gap in a 3 day stint selling tea/coffee etc at Downfall in aid of Edale MRT, superb bivvy by fall.
with Bob Lister
Stoney Boy ?Feb, 1986 Lead O/S
with Phil Cundy
with Phil Cundy
babymoac 16 Aug, 1981 Solo
Brian Wilderspin 26 Jun, 1981 Solo O/S
Falko 16 Sep, 1979 AltLd O/S
with Al W.
with Al W.
DonnyDave 15 Aug, 1978 TR
Hidden 26 Jun, 1977 Solo
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