Rockfax Description
140m. A very interesting route, quick to come into condition and fat to approach from Dunmail. The first pitch is often a bit bare but the upper section can still be in good condition. Start by climbing a chock stone on the left followed by a long easy section (beware loose scree). The gully steepens with a few awkward bits leading to the final iced slab leading out right. © Rockfax

Sid Cross & Alice 'Jammy' Nelson 1938

Hidden 23/Feb/16 Solo
Petarghh 23/Feb/16 AltLd O/S
nick ferro 24/Jan/15 AltLd
Hidden 24/Jan/15 AltLd
Hidden 10/Apr/13 AltLd rpt
jon59 07/Apr/13 AltLd

Chockstone move quite interesting in thin conditions, the rest of the climb stepped out but in good nick until just after the final slab when the snow and ice finished leaving a long steep final turf top out (not nice).

Hidden 01/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
peter.ravenscroft27 29/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
Radioactiveman 29/Mar/13 AltLd O/S

Alternate lead with Mark climbing the chock and the final pitch.

with Mark
Kendrick 28/Mar/13 2nd
with Si
simonscubadiver 28/Mar/13 Lead O/S

Great fun. Much of the snow was loose and un-bonded, gear where it was needed, the final ice slab had just enough on it to feel easy. I lead all pitches.

Ben Hollands 21/Mar/13 Lead O/S
stratandrew 17/Mar/13 AltLd O/S

Excellent route through great scenery. Mostly easier than III - snow not consolidated lower down but upper-half turf frozen and good enough ice for stubby screws! Me P1 & P3. Gareth P2.

gw3285 17/Mar/13 AltLd
thehugehead 16/Mar/13 -

Awesome winter conditions. Loose unbonded snow, soft turf, plastic melting ice. Ice sheet on top pitch non-existent. Next time: I'll bring my Katanas.

with tommyb
Somerset swede basher 16/Mar/13 Solo O/S
Jimmy O 02/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
with Andy Wallace, Andy Blackett
clams ?/Mar/13 Lead
with M
Two Cams Tom 26/Feb/13 AltLd
r_o_b_h2 26/Feb/13 AltLd rpt

great conditions

with Tom Woodstone
Hidden 26/Feb/13 AltLd rpt
Mountain Llama 26/Feb/13 Solo rpt
Hidden 26/Feb/13 AltLd
anteater 24/Feb/13 -

excellent ice conditions

Hidden 23/Feb/13 AltLd
Hidden 23/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
lithos 09/Feb/13 2nd

poor snow today but only people on it the whole day (which is lucky as thats how long we took :-)

Jamie Brown 09/Feb/13 AltLd

Lead middle snow pitch and steepish icy step, plenty of ice but not bonded to anything. Bit thin elsewhere.

Puma 09/Feb/13 AltLd

Lead first and last pitches, a fun route. The ice was a bit thin on the final section but climbable.

Hidden 08/Feb/13 AltLd
somethingelse ?/Dec/12 2nd
with Jim
cas smerdon 12/Feb/12 AltLd
with Mark S
michaelb1 11/Feb/12 AltLd

Chockstone thinnish, lovely ice in gully. Not much rock gear high up so screws useful.

with Robert Durkin
Elastic Jones 07/Feb/12 AltLd O/S
with Hatchet
Harry Ellis 07/Feb/12 AltLd
Joby 04/Feb/12 Lead O/S

Led all, first two pitches pretty lean, second two well frozen but pretty run out, didn't get any gear in the last, needed warthogs and didn't have any. Well worth the two stars.

with Rosse Dalton Vandendorpe
Two Cams Tom 18/Dec/11 2nd

banked out

Hidden 18/Dec/11 Solo
James Smith 18/Dec/11 Solo
Hidden 17/Dec/11 2nd
cas smerdon 17/Dec/11 Lead dnf

Ran out of time.

with Mark S
Hidden 19/Dec/10 AltLd O/S
Anthony Dixon 19/Dec/10 AltLd

First pitch completely bare. Other pitches well formed.

lithos 05/Dec/10 AltLd

moved together at the top, Bara led the first step. what a stunning day out

with barra
design crisis 05/Dec/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 02/Dec/10 Solo
Hidden ?/Dec/10 AltLd
Hidden 13/Mar/10 AltLd
Ben1983 06/Mar/10 Solo O/S

Chris led chockstone. Soloed the rest.

Hidden 06/Mar/10 Lead O/S
Adi Hooper 03/Mar/10 AltLd

In the dark after work! Did the ice fall finish on the last pitch.

with Roger Ward
crowberry gully 21/Feb/10 AltLd

Bottom chockstone was bare (as usual?) after that the ice was good

morsy 21/Feb/10 AltLd
with david bell
Hidden 19/Feb/10 AltLd
Hidden 19/Feb/10 Lead
Hidden 18/Feb/10 2nd O/S
Mountain Llama 14/Feb/10 AltLd
with Paul S
markfairbank 14/Feb/10 AltLd O/S

Good nick, hardest part was the chockstone at the start. Led P1 and P3.

with Martin Kitson
Hidden 07/Feb/10 Solo
tobyk 03/Feb/10 AltLd O/S


Hidden ?/Feb/10 AltLd
Hidden 31/Jan/10 Lead rpt
jh5638 24/Jan/10 Lead O/S

Terrible condition, first moves over chockstone hard as you have to place axes into bare loose scree, ice pitch virtually gone, final 20m clawing up unfrozen turf covered with scree! Fun day out though...

with Clay Conlon
Clay C 24/Jan/10 AltLd O/S

Poor conditions, but a good day out! Led easy snow slope (first ever lead).

with Jon H
Hidden 24/Jan/10 Lead O/S
Ann S 23/Jan/10 2nd

Good kickable snow but main probs were at chockstone where snow was getting undermined and collapsible. Main challenge was leaving enough for the party of 2 following us.

with Adam
Adam1973 23/Jan/10 Lead O/S
with Ann S
Hidden 07/Jan/10 AltLd
Hidden 07/Jan/10 AltLd
r_o_b_h2 04/Jan/10 AltLd O/S
with kev anderson
alan barnes 03/Jan/10 AltLd

after one move at the start its a long boring snow slope. did the small ice wall at the top but you can miss it out and follow gully past it.

with luke, sam d
Hidden ?/Jan/10 AltLd dnf
jimmys 30/Dec/09 Lead O/S

ok but far from good condition

with Markus
Booey 28/Dec/09 2nd O/S
munki1971 28/Dec/09 Lead O/S

Very deep powder snow all the way. Chock stone was awkward under loose powder and hard to find any gear placements. More like swimming than climbing.

blackpoolrock 27/Dec/09 Solo O/S
with Yes
al jackson ?/Dec/09 2nd
stimpey 14/Feb/09 AltLd O/S

Bloody brilliant!

with Pete
Hidden 14/Feb/09 AltLd
Timo Austino 14/Feb/09 2nd

awesome route - a bit thin i think as the thaw maybe set in. the two chaps who gorped out when we continued after they'd announced the whole hill had melted - aaahhhh!

with nats and ali
Different Steve 14/Feb/09 AltLd

Led 1st & last pitches. Excellent fun

with Joe & Martin Hore
joehanks61 13/Feb/09 AltLd
with S.Culverhouse + M.Hore
Simon Caldwell 08/Feb/09 Lead

Rather busy! Sadly the ice pitches had steps hacked all the way up which made it easier and less fun.

with Carmen
teflonpete 08/Feb/09 2nd β

Excellent route. Snow, turf, rock and ice.

with Diccon
Hidden 08/Feb/09 Lead
Martin Haworth 07/Feb/09 Solo O/S
Will Smith 07/Feb/09 AltLd O/S

Felt easy for the grade. The chockstone was straightforward but had loads of loose choss on top. Rest of the first two pitches was on easy angled, excellent quality snow. Top two pitches were fantastic, great thick, plastic ice which felt easy and secure. Ridiculously busy though, perhaps 5 parties simultaneously on the route!

with Rob
lithos 07/Feb/09 -

nice climb, if too busy. good ice and snow. interesting short ice lines up right near the top

Mr. K 07/Feb/09 AltLd O/S

Excellent route, finding gear was very difficult though.

Hidden 07/Feb/09 AltLd O/S
DSM 07/Feb/09 AltLd O/S

Climbed at daybreak before the crowds. A fine outing but a bit hacked by heavy traffic - a bit of a walk really. II not III today.

with Andy Gittins
TimPerkin 06/Feb/09 AltLd O/S
with Colin Beechey
Hidden 06/Feb/09 2nd
Mountain Llama 06/Feb/09 Lead
with Alan
Hidden 06/Feb/09 2nd
Hidden 04/Feb/09 Solo O/S
Tom Phillips 04/Feb/09 Solo O/S
with dick
Hidden 04/Feb/09 Solo
Peter Metcalfe 03/Feb/09 AltLd
with Foggy
gripped01 ?/Feb/09 Solo

Full moon.

with Si Moore
J1PEF ?/Feb/09 AltLd
Hidden 18/Mar/06 Solo O/S
david morse ?/Feb/06 Solo
with chris todd
chicken88 ??/2006 2nd O/S
with Brian Kirckpatrick
nakedave ??/2006 Solo
Martin Haworth ?/Mar/05 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Feb/05 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Feb/04 Solo O/S
Hidden 18/Jan/04 Lead
Hidden 17/Jan/04 AltLd
Hidden 03/Jan/97 AltLd O/S
Andy Say 19/Mar/95 Lead

Banked out with good neve - probably only II

John Brayshaw 22/Feb/94 AltLd O/S
with Chris
biggianthead 09/Jan/94 -
with HT
dodders 13/Jan/91 AltLd
with Dick Hargreaves
biggianthead 29/Mar/87 -
with HT
Hidden ?/Jan/86 Solo
Mark Kemball 28/Dec/84 Solo
Ghastly Rubberfeet ?/Nov/84 Solo
biggianthead 06/Feb/83 -
with M
Hammy 06/Feb/83 Lead
with Pete Smith
Seymore Butt ??/1965 AltLd
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