244m, 11 pitches.

Rockfax Description
One of the first routes climbed on the cliff, and a real mountaineering adventure. Start below and left of Heather Shelf.
1) 20m. Scramble up to the left-hand end of Heather Shelf. Traverse leftwards to the second rib and climb it to belay beneath the big corner.
2) 27m. Climb the corner until it is possible to step left onto the prow. Follow this to a big vegetated ledge.
3) 30m. Climb the broader rib above to another, larger heather-covered ledge.
4) 30m. Climb the wall rightwards to reach the vague chimney on its right-hand side. Ascend this, and follow a quartz band rightwards to a ledge.
5) 23m. Scramble up to belay on the left end of the grassy ledge, beneath the Horns - a prominent clean buttress of rock.
6) 20m. The groove in the centre of the wall leads to another, steeper groove. Climb this until a hard move rightwards leads to the base of the slab below the Horns.
7) 8m. Climb the polished slab. From here 100m of exposed scrambling leads to the summit, it is best to break this into 25m pitches, unless you feel happy enough to move together or solo 400m off the ground. © Rockfax

JMA Thompson, O Eckenstein Sep/1905

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, High Quality Adventure routes.

El Swiftos! 08/Sep AltLd O/S

Wet and slippery!!

with Waydan
static266 26/May Lead O/S

Lead all pitches, went off route near the top and ended up traversing to the great terrace and finishing up Terminal Arete. Classic Lliwedd runouts and holds with some great positions.

Freshprintce 08/Apr Lead
Hidden 08/Apr AltLd O/S
rockafunked ?/Apr AltLd

Climbed in a three; started climbing at 10am, topped out at 6.45pm. First pitch description on Rockfax may not be the easiest way - easiest to scramble up the second rib direct. Final slab pitch looked hard in the wet, so traversed round left and went up the cracks, which was not easy either. The 100m of scrambling above is exposed in parts.

Hidden 13/Aug/16 AltLd
Hidden 13/Aug/16 2nd
Jack_Marshall 23/Jul/16 Lead O/S

long day 12 hours to complete the route! lost way on Pitch 2 and climbed the wrong buttress until able to reconnect above the 3rd Belay,good climbing until the difficulties at the top of pitch 6 continued round to the left avoiding the slab and up a small corner, then finished the scrambling to the summit in 3 long pitches rope drag starting to be a real problem 10m before the summit. great day, terrible time management.

DMiss 04/Jun/16 AltLd O/S

I lead pitches 2, 4, 6 (8). Think we went too far left on pitch 5. Got back to correct place for final pitches (6 and 7 in guidebook). Slab felt harder than VDiff, perhaps should have gone up it further right.

with Cat
Shaunyod 30/May/16 Lead
andrewcoultherd 10/Apr/16 AltLd dnf

Don't think we were on right route. Got 2 pitches up, very vegetated, muddy, went past a ledge with a peg. Abseiled down off a spike.

Hidden 10/Apr/16 AltLd dnf
Mike Roger ??/2016 -
jacko120 ??/2016 AltLd

Pitches 2,4,6&7 epic day

Climbingspike ??/2016 -
Rob Moorcroft 31/Oct/15 Lead

Very wet and slimy. Finished the scramble still roped up in the dark. Alerted MRT via text for party on South Face of Crib Goch approx 8:45pm.

with Sarah Busef
duncana 30/Aug/15 AltLd

Perhaps not the best route on Lliwedd, but Pippa had done that already. Still ok, bit vegetated. The P6 slab pitch that I did seemed way harder than VD, and not entirely as described in the book but maybe we were on route (and it was ok, just not that easy!). Then walked over Snowdon (must have passed 1000+ people), and back in Nant Peris valley.

with Pippa Archer
ChristyCole 09/Aug/15 AltLd O/S
with Dan
J.A.Thomson 09/Aug/15 TR O/S

use rope man between dan and christy

with Christy, Dan
Hidden ?/Aug/15 AltLd O/S
odari 07/Jun/15 -
Purely 06/Apr/15 AltLd O/S

Mixed up the pitches at the start. Did some of 2, 3, 5, 7. Slab was tricky even in the dry. Route looked like it hadn't been clim climbed in ages. Mucky and overgrown in places and still a bit green and slimy. Cracking day out in fantastic still, sunny conditions, though.

with Mat Adams
tonevert ??/2015 AltLd O/S
with Dave
adam06 ??/2015 Lead
with dario
John Bunney ??/2015 Solo
Hidden ??/2015 -
HumphreyJ20 06/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Started in the rain but after it stopped and the rock started to get drier it Made for An epic day well worth doing!

with Ross Millar, Paul
khumbu-Kid 06/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with jay, Valentino
Valentino 06/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Jay
suds_01 04/Sep/14 Lead
with Sarah
Echna 21/Aug/14 AltLd O/S
with Dalinda, Rich
Hidden 20/Aug/14 AltLd O/S
AndyF 20/Aug/14 AltLd
j4kub 07/Aug/14 Lead O/S
with claire gibson
dbm 25/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

Lead P1, 3, 5, 7, 9

Hidden 25/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
RagingPuffin 25/Jul/14 Solo O/S

Route finding was a bit epic as everything on the crag appears to match the description. Climbed a close approximation though.

Mark Kemball 17/Jul/14 Lead

"Interesting" route finding, particularly on the first pitch. Nowhere harder than V.Diff, if the correct route is found, but I would not like to be a V.Diff leader on this route!

with Bill Kemball
Hidden 13/Jul/14 Lead O/S
MoWalker3 13/Jul/14 AltLd

In big boots in the wet, needed combined tactics to get up the polished slab! A superb day out.

with Ross
Hidden 13/Jul/14 AltLd
timmyhobby 23/Jun/14 Lead O/S
hannahbannana 23/Jun/14 2nd
Dan724 03/Jun/14 AltLd β

Moved together for 90% of the route. Took 2 hours. Pitched two 5m sections due to the lack of grip offered by my fell shoes. Would've been better in big boots! Contrary to what people say about Lliwedd the rock quality was generally very good with great gear. Worth at least 2 stars, probably the best adventurous climb I've done in the UK.

JamesWilliams 03/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Moved together for alpine training. 2hrs to do the route and what a route it is! great exposure and great views. finished off the day by finishing the Snowdon horse shoe.

Si ?/Jun/14 AltLd
with Rhys, beckycoles
rbharries 16/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Danger olly, neils EW
Hidden 16/May/14 AltLd O/S
Iclimb 04/May/14 2nd
stratandrew 04/May/14 Lead O/S

One of the best mountain crags in the UK - and the quietest. Led all pitches in rock shoes. 5 hrs. Great route. V tricky below the horns.

Joe Innes 20/Apr/14 AltLd

Moved together

with James Dexter
Hidden 19/Apr/14 Lead
jez_palmer 04/Apr/14 Lead O/S

7 hrs, rained on during last described pitch, slab running with water

tedburt 07/Dec/13 AltLd O/S

Big boots Led P1,4,5,7

with Aaron Burdett
morgan91 10/Nov/13 AltLd
Hidden 01/Sep/13 Solo
Katex 28/Aug/13 AltLd O/S

Led pitches 3 and 5/6 joined. Quite hard for VD especially the tricky step!

with Chloe, Simon Edwards
Hidden 17/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
Sam Melville 17/Jul/13 AltLd
with CLetham
markhill371 14/Jul/13 Lead
with Owen Reed-Beadle
bsparky 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Great day out on a beautiful day. Well worth the walk in.

DOVEY 05/Jun/13 Lead

Great sunny day! hand glider in speaking distance!(hello) Sea king buzzing near us.

with jack & oilly
OllieF 05/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
JamesLloyd ?/Jun/13 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2013 Lead
tim20 ??/2013 -
antonymcphillips 16/Dec/12 AltLd O/S
ollyroberts 13/Aug/12 AltLd O/S

Big boots. Very wet!

with Ben
Desi Gillespie 23/May/12 2nd
with Chris Goldsmith
Hidden 21/May/12 AltLd O/S
jasoncash 21/Jan/12 AltLd O/S
andycash 06/Jan/12 AltLd O/S
with jason cash
Hidden ??/2012 -
Callum Anderson ??/2012 -
Hidden 15/Oct/11 AltLd rpt
Hidden ?/Oct/11 AltLd rpt
Hidden 20/Aug/11 2nd
Hidden 06/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden 06/Aug/11 AltLd
jossjones ?/Aug/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 09/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
mrchewy 09/Jul/11 AltLd O/S

Led pitches 3, 5, first half of 6, the polished slab pitch and 40m of the scrambling.

fizzychewitt 03/Jul/11 Lead
with Dale
MarekM ?/Jul/11 AltLd
mheyes101 04/Jun/11 2nd
ian d f 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
pearson9596 04/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
risby 14/May/11 2nd O/S

Started raining as we put on our climbing shoes and helmets. After five or six pitches got a bit stuck. Couldn't safely ab down so finished climbing stream in gully on left. Started before noon, finished 8pm. Very cold, hail, gales. Numb fingers and feet. Apparently good intro to mountaineering !

with Steve Wales
jaimer 19/Feb/11 Lead O/S

Led climbing pitches then alternated the scambling (in the dark). Topped out around 7.30. Very wet after heavy rain.

with Phil
pearson9596 ??/2011 2nd O/S
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Steeve 20/Nov/10 AltLd O/S

last few pitches in the dark, was amazing.

with will
willoates 20/Nov/10 AltLd

in the dark and mist, good fun, although the last pitch was very hard for Vdiff I thought.

with Steve
Hidden 13/Nov/10 AltLd dnf
Tarquin 26/Sep/10 Lead
with Liz
Hidden 26/Sep/10 2nd
Nigel R Lewis 25/Sep/10 AltLd

Led the odd pitches, but we got lost around P4 and just took a direct line tto the summit

with Sylvia Noorbhai
Philippa Arding 09/Sep/10 Lead

took us 6 hours, climbing with Gav and Furtemba ( on another rope). Heavy showers, very greasy, rock fall. Good adventure!

with Finso Sherpa
Hidden 30/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
chriswitts1 02/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

Pitches 1,3,6.

with Rich Hopkins
stevepotter 20/Jun/10 Solo
Hidden 25/May/10 AltLd
Gezzer 24/Apr/10 AltLd

Good mountaineering day. Moved together for most of it, pitched a couple of the more cheeky pitches. Walked up to the summit of Snowdon and back down the PYG track.

with Nick Ellaway
dannymoo99 17/Apr/10 AltLd dnf

Went off route, got lost, hit by rockfall had to ab out 3/4 way up. Nightmare.

with Tom Shooter
tobydunford 16/Apr/10 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2010 Lead O/S
alancash100 ??/2010 AltLd
Hidden ??/2010 Solo
tiga271 08/Aug/09 AltLd

led second pitch, got a bit lost up a gulley ( old peg ) and had to tracvers out back onto route

with mark20
mark20 08/Aug/09 AltLd O/S

We went off route (VS variation up gully past rusty peg?) and I had trainers on. The rest is lovely though

rocklobster 08/Aug/09 AltLd
with Simon
simozzer 08/Aug/09 AltLd O/S
with Matt
bob johnson 08/Aug/09 AltLd O/S

made a bit of hash of the start being lurred into retrieving gear left behind went off route and wasted some time - and as for that crux pitch! surprised me a bit - but you know how v diff's go

with Bram
Shad 28/Jul/09 Lead

Poured it down all day, horrendous. Don't think for one meter we were actually on the correct route!

Hidden 05/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 05/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 05/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
Ewan Russell 26/May/09 AltLd O/S

Nice and easy, forgot guidebook but took roughly right route.

with Fraser
climbingrev 20/Apr/09 Lead O/S

Brilliant long route on a perfect day. Started at 8:00am, finished at 5:00pm. Perfect. First route of this length. Last 2/300 ft of scrambling may be lets the line down. But generally a great day out.

with Josh Jones
Hidden ?/Aug/08 AltLd
Hidden 27/Jul/08 AltLd O/S
thompson1000 27/Jul/08 AltLd
with tom
Dave Almond ?/May/08 Lead O/S
petekeron ?/May/08 AltLd O/S


with Jonathan Burgess
Nicole Almond ?/May/08 2nd

it was a really long but easy climb.

with Dad
mikelaing ?/May/08 Lead

This is a route of real quality and a far better experience than anything found on the East Face of Tryfan. All the pitches are interesting and link without any scrambling sections in between, far better than Grooved Arete any day.

with Luke
The Bad Cough ?/Feb/08 AltLd O/S
with Lee Bonner
Hidden ??/2008 -
Meg Jones 07/Oct/07 AltLd
with Tim Griffin and James Coles
jscoles ?/Oct/07 AltLd O/S
with Tim Griffin
edmitchell 01/Sep/07 AltLd O/S

Wet and slimy. Off route at end, climbed a final pitch with one point of aid - Don't think it was the correct way to reach the 'polished slab'. Scrambling at top was fairly unpleasant and loose

with kai ren
Hidden 01/Sep/07 AltLd O/S
Glyn 27/Aug/07 AltLd O/S
davefount 27/Aug/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 28/Jul/07 AltLd O/S
tanssop 19/Jul/07 2nd
with Ian
John HW 22/May/07 AltLd O/S
with Rhys HW, Cath
Hidden 22/May/07 AltLd
Tom Stoddart 07/Apr/07 -

Moved together

with Iain Leverett
Hidden ?/Apr/07 AltLd
fran04 ??/2007 AltLd
Hidden 28/Dec/06 2nd O/S
Phil Jennings 08/Aug/06 AltLd O/S
with James Brown
beardy mike ??/2006 Lead O/S
with Miles Grout
Scott Anderson ??/2005 -
Hidden 06/May/04 AltLd O/S
caradoc 08/Apr/04 Solo O/S

One of the cleaner routes on the crag.

Hidden 21/Feb/04 AltLd
Hidden ?/Jul/03 -
Hidden 21/Jun/03 2nd
Will Gordon ?/Jun/03 Lead dnf

Retreated after 4 pitches due to bad weather.

with Owen Peat
Hidden 21/Apr/03 Lead
Hidden 07/Apr/03 AltLd
Hidden 14/Jul/02 AltLd
mikehenesy ?/Jun/02 AltLd O/S

Cracking sunny day. A good standard early morning Rob Beadnel 11.30 start. Had to leggit for the last couple of pitches of midges.

with Rob Beadnel
Hidden ?/Jun/01 -
alan moore ?/Dec/00 -

Xmas trip. Dry but increasing icy with height gained. forced rightwards and finished up Terminal Arete using one ice axe between two and some aid. Perfect estuarine sunset from the snowy summit.

snowcat 10/Jun/99 2nd
with Janet Korsak, Colin Watts
sixties 25/May/99 AltLd

rare occassion warm and sunny climed in tee shirts

with hrd
Hidden ?/May/99 -
puddingstone 17/Aug/96 2nd
with Andy
babymoac 17/Aug/96 Lead

Followed by Graham & Julia, cracked the wine open halfway up

with Liz
Hidden 15/Jun/96 AltLd O/S
Hidden 09/Jun/96 AltLd dnf
brady 11/Apr/96 AltLd O/S
with Graham Jones
Rob Davies 08/Apr/95 Solo

Much more exposed than E Face of Tryfan

michaelb1 ?/Jul/94 Lead
with A Kenny
Hidden 11/Nov/90 AltLd
tlr 30/May/90 Solo
Hidden ??/1990 AltLd
nigehughes ?/Jul/89 AltLd
with Mark Jones
Ian Archer 28/May/89 Lead O/S
with MWP, Neil Watson
andy@ark ?/Aug/88 AltLd

Rained off first attempt. On return Richard led most of route. Nasty big cliff.

with Richard Law (WMC)
mikej 10/Jul/83 Lead
with S
roncaves 13/Apr/81 AltLd
with Jon Caves
Hidden ?/Jul/79 Lead
Hammy 11/Jun/76 AltLd
with Jonathon Stacey
Falko 18/Oct/75 AltLd O/S
with Al W.
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