81m, 2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
Delicate, sustained and excellent. The route is not well protected and is prone to seepage on the initial crack and upper crux - care required if at all damp, especially on the upper part of P2.
1) 4a, 35m. Start up the main corner for 20m then trend left across the bubbly slab to a rib. Balance up this to a small stance and high belay under the overlap.
2) 4b, 40m. Climb through the bulge then move left and head up the vague rib on good holds to the overlap high above. Jig left and right through this and finish up the final slab, carefully avoiding any wetness. © Rockfax

Ticklists

Classic Rock, The 100 Best UK VS routes?, North Wales Rock Graded List, Best slab climbs of the UK, Menlove Routes, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, UK Lonely Leads, 100 Best Wales Mid Grade Climbs, Snowdonia in Chains, The Original 'Classic Rock' List, Glyn's North Wales mid-grade ticklist, George's Ultimate Easy to Mid Grade North Wales Trad Ticklist

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mattorford 24 Aug Lead great route would be better if it wasn't as wet
with Gina
great route would be better if it wasn't as wet
with Gina
tommywilliams 24 Aug 2nd O/S Extremely wet, everywhere you want a foot hold or hand was full of water. Claimable however.
with Elliot Phillips
Extremely wet, everywhere you want a foot hold or hand was full of water. Claimable however.
with Elliot Phillips
Rachael88 24 Aug Lead
with BStar
with BStar
BStar 24 Aug - Wet, bold and muddy. Luckily Elliot took the lead as I would have backed off for sure. I cannot believe how terrifying (and a bit crap) this route is. Ken got this one wrong. The only positive was that we had a great day from the bottom of the slabs to the top of the Glyders ticking all the classic rock routes. 305m of climbing and a load of scrambling too. Long day. Great enchainment
Wet, bold and muddy. Luckily Elliot took the lead as I would have backed off for sure. I cannot believe how terrifying (and a bit crap) this route is. Ken got this one wrong. The only positive was that we had a great day from the bottom of the slabs to the top of the Glyders ticking all the classic rock routes. 305m of climbing and a load of scrambling too. Long day. Great enchainment
RichardJBaker 20 Aug AltLd
with John
with John
Hidden 13 Aug AltLd
James Worthington 13 Aug AltLd First pitch. So cold.
First pitch. So cold.
dunky 27 Jul Lead O/S
with Dad
with Dad
Hidden 16 Jul Lead O/S
treesrockice 16 Jul Solo O/S Hope, solo repeat, into Lazarus, solo repeat, into The Arete, solo on-sight, into Grey Slab, solo on-sight. 2hrs 29mins 15secs Ogwen Centre to Ogwen Centre, 11 stars, 183 meters climbing and 9 guide book pitches. Glad to read people thought this was high in the grade, felt ***king well full on. Delicate and feet trusting slab climbing on rock that creaks in places, with wet patches. Thought this would be straight forward but route finding wasn't obvious and I stopped having fun maybe a third of the way into the 2nd pitch, never actually physically challenging for me but very mentally demanding. Had to slow down to keep the fear demons away. Can see how leading wouldn't even be much different. This for me felt harder than doing California Arete although I can't comment on the grade having not chosen a typical ascent style. Will not be soloing a VS again without checking it out more first.
Hope, solo repeat, into Lazarus, solo repeat, into The Arete, solo on-sight, into Grey Slab, solo on-sight. 2hrs 29mins 15secs Ogwen Centre to Ogwen Centre, 11 stars, 183 meters climbing and 9 guide book pitches. Glad to read people thought this was high in the grade, felt ***king well full on. Delicate and feet trusting slab climbing on rock that creaks in places, with wet patches. Thought this would be straight forward but route finding wasn't obvious and I stopped having fun maybe a third of the way into the 2nd pitch, never actually physically challenging for me but very mentally demanding. Had to slow down to keep the fear demons away. Can see how leading wouldn't even be much different. This for me felt harder than doing California Arete although I can't comment on the grade having not chosen a typical ascent style. Will not be soloing a VS again without checking it out more first.
Glyn Davidson 3 Jul AltLd O/S I lead pitch 1. Think I went off route (traversed too soon and climbed the groove) as the climbing felt difficult for the grade. Was quite wet in places. Had to do quite a bit of gardening on the belay ledge to find some runner placements.
I lead pitch 1. Think I went off route (traversed too soon and climbed the groove) as the climbing felt difficult for the grade. Was quite wet in places. Had to do quite a bit of gardening on the belay ledge to find some runner placements.
michael burrows 2 Jul AltLd O/S Led 2nd pitch, not much gear but it's where you need it
with Glyn Davidson
Led 2nd pitch, not much gear but it's where you need it
with Glyn Davidson
foostu4 29 Jun Lead O/S
fechtn 22 Jun AltLd O/S Led first pitch which was damp and muddy. Thankfully Maia led the 2nd pitch, it was extremely bold and I'm not a great slab climber. There was a 15m run out with sustained 4c slab climbing. I think it should be HVS. Finished a great day with a swim in Cwm Idwal.
with Maia
Led first pitch which was damp and muddy. Thankfully Maia led the 2nd pitch, it was extremely bold and I'm not a great slab climber. There was a 15m run out with sustained 4c slab climbing. I think it should be HVS. Finished a great day with a swim in Cwm Idwal.
with Maia
Maia 22 Jun AltLd O/S
with fechtn
with fechtn
CrawfMatt 11 May AltLd O/S Led 2nd pitch. Fairly easy climbing but bold with next to no gear for first 10m. Probably another 10m before next decent runner and puddle dodging required all the way up! Part of a full day multipitch starting on Tennis shoe. Topped out Glyder Fawr at 9pm.
Led 2nd pitch. Fairly easy climbing but bold with next to no gear for first 10m. Probably another 10m before next decent runner and puddle dodging required all the way up! Part of a full day multipitch starting on Tennis shoe. Topped out Glyder Fawr at 9pm.
Keith Swainson 21 Apr AltLd O/S Great value! Like finding a crate of beer for 50p in the supermarket yellow label corner. Immense respect to the first ascentionists and the experience documented in Classic Rock. Brilliant route, but 15m above half a nut and a cam on 3 lobes, on P2, hoping holds will appear, only to find when they do they're wet and there's still work to do to reach the gear was memorable. In my top 3 scariest VS. (felt like somewhere between Sunset Slab and Javelin Blade to onsite, HVS 4b/4c for me).
Great value! Like finding a crate of beer for 50p in the supermarket yellow label corner. Immense respect to the first ascentionists and the experience documented in Classic Rock. Brilliant route, but 15m above half a nut and a cam on 3 lobes, on P2, hoping holds will appear, only to find when they do they're wet and there's still work to do to reach the gear was memorable. In my top 3 scariest VS. (felt like somewhere between Sunset Slab and Javelin Blade to onsite, HVS 4b/4c for me).
Georgie25 21 Apr AltLd Led p1 - belayed in a pond! Bold lead from Keith on p2 - definitely not a first vs route!
Led p1 - belayed in a pond! Bold lead from Keith on p2 - definitely not a first vs route!
Glynbob 20 Apr Lead O/S Led first pitch
Led first pitch
adamre12 20 Apr AltLd O/S Spooky! As part of Cwm idwal enchainment. Route 3 of 5. Spectacular route, with zero polish and perfect balancy, smeary climbing. Be warned this route is incredibly bold with 2 or 3 15m run outs, and large areas of runoff. The second pitch is more like 55m if you continue to the logical end.
with Glynbob
Spooky! As part of Cwm idwal enchainment. Route 3 of 5. Spectacular route, with zero polish and perfect balancy, smeary climbing. Be warned this route is incredibly bold with 2 or 3 15m run outs, and large areas of runoff. The second pitch is more like 55m if you continue to the logical end.
with Glynbob
smelliedebs ?Apr AltLd The final climb as part of a continuation starting on idwal slabs- excellent day out
with Em
The final climb as part of a continuation starting on idwal slabs- excellent day out
with Em
Hidden ?? -
Jonnaylor 10 Aug, 2018 AltLd 2nd pitch - airy and run-out!
with Ivor
2nd pitch - airy and run-out!
with Ivor
bummingham 15 Jul, 2018 AltLd O/S Lead first pitch, fairly straigh forward. Belay a bit of a faff, drop down 2m to small ledge. Upper pitch very bold and delicate, poor gear in lower section. nice climbing.
with Stewart Moodie
Lead first pitch, fairly straigh forward. Belay a bit of a faff, drop down 2m to small ledge. Upper pitch very bold and delicate, poor gear in lower section. nice climbing.
with Stewart Moodie
Lewis Read 8 Jul, 2018 AltLd
Tom Draude 8 Jul, 2018 Lead O/S
with Sabrina Draude, Adam
with Sabrina Draude, Adam
chris cockbain 8 Jul, 2018 AltLd O/S bold
bold
John Nuttall 27 Jun, 2018 2nd
with Mike, Sharon
with Mike, Sharon
Hidden 26 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
Graeme Hammond 26 Jun, 2018 - Aproched via Grey Rib to avoid apparently scrappy first pitch
Aproched via Grey Rib to avoid apparently scrappy first pitch
EamonH 23 Jun, 2018 2nd Linked up with Tennis Shoe Direct, Piton Route and The Arete. Bold lead by Pete, still partially wet by overhangs despite long dry spell.
with Cheeks
Linked up with Tennis Shoe Direct, Piton Route and The Arete. Bold lead by Pete, still partially wet by overhangs despite long dry spell.
with Cheeks
Cheeks 23 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
with Eamon
with Eamon
MarkFoster 13 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S Bit of a frightened but great position and moves. Still wet after about a month if dry weather!
with Ian
Bit of a frightened but great position and moves. Still wet after about a month if dry weather!
with Ian
Ralfy 9 Jun, 2018 AltLd O/S
with Adam
with Adam
Hidden 7 Jun, 2018 AltLd
Bartosz 18 May, 2018 2nd β Climbed after several dry hot days.pitch 1 spaced,but big bomber gear,perfect rock and friction. Pitch 2 soaking,despite dry spell. Really desperate scary climbing with long run outs above small suspect gear.Added extra pitch under final slab due to rope drag(used single rope). Combined with Hope, Lazarus for brilliant day out.
Climbed after several dry hot days.pitch 1 spaced,but big bomber gear,perfect rock and friction. Pitch 2 soaking,despite dry spell. Really desperate scary climbing with long run outs above small suspect gear.Added extra pitch under final slab due to rope drag(used single rope). Combined with Hope, Lazarus for brilliant day out.
mark4344 18 May, 2018 Lead O/S Climbed after several dry hot days.pitch 1 spaced,but big bomber gear,perfect rock and friction. Pitch 2 soaking,despite dry spell. Really desperate scary climbing with long run outs above small suspect gear.Added extra pitch under final slab due to rope drag(used single rope). Combined with hope,Lazarus for brilliant day out.
with Bartosz
Climbed after several dry hot days.pitch 1 spaced,but big bomber gear,perfect rock and friction. Pitch 2 soaking,despite dry spell. Really desperate scary climbing with long run outs above small suspect gear.Added extra pitch under final slab due to rope drag(used single rope). Combined with hope,Lazarus for brilliant day out.
with Bartosz
adamwesthead 14 May, 2018 AltLd dnf Phil lead p1. Upper slab dripping wet so decided to ab off
with Taylor
Phil lead p1. Upper slab dripping wet so decided to ab off
with Taylor
Phil T 14 May, 2018 AltLd dnf Led first pitch, damp throughout but interesting, top pitch soaking wet and I dropped some of Adam’s gear from the high belay so we backed off.
Led first pitch, damp throughout but interesting, top pitch soaking wet and I dropped some of Adam’s gear from the high belay so we backed off.
methuselah ??, 2018 -
Deezel65 25 Jul, 2017 AltLd O/S Very very wet and slimey in places, Chris did the first 50m and ended up doing the crux with very minimal gear and such wet conditions was a fine lead requiring a VERY calm head. The initial steep round of the second pitch was worryingly wet too, but the climbing soon eased into nice padding with spaced but excellent nut placements.
Very very wet and slimey in places, Chris did the first 50m and ended up doing the crux with very minimal gear and such wet conditions was a fine lead requiring a VERY calm head. The initial steep round of the second pitch was worryingly wet too, but the climbing soon eased into nice padding with spaced but excellent nut placements.
ipfreely 25 Jul, 2017 AltLd Led p1 as a 50m ish pitch, right up to below the steep wall with all the seepage, where there's some tat and an out of reach peg. Seepage throughout the route made for a tough ascent.
Led p1 as a 50m ish pitch, right up to below the steep wall with all the seepage, where there's some tat and an out of reach peg. Seepage throughout the route made for a tough ascent.
Hidden 18 Jul, 2017 AltLd O/S
Hidden 1 Jun, 2017 Lead
bidean 1 Jun, 2017 2nd
Hidden 26 May, 2017 2nd
Hidden 26 May, 2017 Lead O/S
Droyd 18 May, 2017 AltLd O/S Very, very bold and very, very wet but quite good - mostly for the position, although the committing to crimpy little rockovers with gear ten metres below will likely stick in the mind
with Henry
Very, very bold and very, very wet but quite good - mostly for the position, although the committing to crimpy little rockovers with gear ten metres below will likely stick in the mind
with Henry
mike smash ??, 2017 - great
great
Boe Jailey 22 Oct, 2016 AltLd
Flavio 6 Aug, 2016 Solo O/S
Hidden 21 Jun, 2016 AltLd O/S
Hidden 6 Jun, 2016 AltLd O/S
andrewmc 6 Jun, 2016 AltLd O/S Moving together, I led the second half. 3 brass offsets and tricams (black and pink, plus an optional red higher up) provided reasonable (slightly spaced) protection for the first half of pitch 2 (you can tuck the tricams behind the jugs). Second half of pitch 2 pretty unprotected.
with Zack
Moving together, I led the second half. 3 brass offsets and tricams (black and pink, plus an optional red higher up) provided reasonable (slightly spaced) protection for the first half of pitch 2 (you can tuck the tricams behind the jugs). Second half of pitch 2 pretty unprotected.
with Zack
Hidden 4 Jun, 2016 Solo rpt
PennyL 4 Jun, 2016 AltLd O/S
with Pat Dawson
with Pat Dawson
steve prior ?Jun, 2016 Lead
with Andy C
with Andy C
davebrox ??, 2016 -
Darron ??, 2016 -
Climbingspike ??, 2016 -
Mike Roger ??, 2016 -
mountain musher ??, 2016 AltLd
dansimkin 11 Oct, 2015 2nd O/S
with Matt Malkin
with Matt Malkin
Matt Harmon 4 Oct, 2015 AltLd O/S led P1
led P1
Anna duckett 4 Oct, 2015 AltLd O/S Led the 2nd pitch- very sparsley protected!
Led the 2nd pitch- very sparsley protected!
joermann 17 Sep, 2015 AltLd
Hidden 11 Sep, 2015 AltLd
davenev 11 Sep, 2015 AltLd O/S
Phillhop 10 Sep, 2015 AltLd O/S
with James 1
with James 1
Dawn_K_B 22 Jun, 2015 AltLd O/S
pete1993 22 Jun, 2015 AltLd O/S led 2nd pitch, felt very good value for vs, with 2 getting on for 20m runouts with sustained climbing, really good climbing though, definitely the best of the classic rock link up, slab was wet in places but fairly easily avoidable
led 2nd pitch, felt very good value for vs, with 2 getting on for 20m runouts with sustained climbing, really good climbing though, definitely the best of the classic rock link up, slab was wet in places but fairly easily avoidable
Sean Kelly 13 May, 2015 Lead Very, very wet and not much gear higher up the route! I'd like to do this climb again on a dry day.
with Antonio Ramos
Very, very wet and not much gear higher up the route! I'd like to do this climb again on a dry day.
with Antonio Ramos
JohnMetcalfe 21 Sep, 2014 2nd Andy led both pitches. Top pitch very bold, very little gear, easily a 10m run out. We did it in 3 pitches and that seemed to work well - 2nd belay just below the second bulge. Rotting mouse in obvious hand hold at 1st belay not nice!
with Andy Wilson
Andy led both pitches. Top pitch very bold, very little gear, easily a 10m run out. We did it in 3 pitches and that seemed to work well - 2nd belay just below the second bulge. Rotting mouse in obvious hand hold at 1st belay not nice!
with Andy Wilson
Hidden 13 Sep, 2014 2nd
Craigyboy13 12 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S i led p2. p1 was a lovely pitch. p2 was a bold one but its all there, the slab was covered with water. yes the gear is poor but the slab has excellent friction. vs is a bit low for this climb, HVS 4a-4b
i led p2. p1 was a lovely pitch. p2 was a bold one but its all there, the slab was covered with water. yes the gear is poor but the slab has excellent friction. vs is a bit low for this climb, HVS 4a-4b
Hidden 10 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
rohai545 26 Jul, 2014 AltLd Lovely climbing, but as mentioned previously, scant protection where it really matters after the stance. After the bulge drifted off left early due to rope drag. Second pitch felt more HVS 4c -exhilarating!!
with Ross Morton
Lovely climbing, but as mentioned previously, scant protection where it really matters after the stance. After the bulge drifted off left early due to rope drag. Second pitch felt more HVS 4c -exhilarating!!
with Ross Morton
nation1 26 Jul, 2014 AltLd Epic route with some fine views. 2nd pitch is exposed with not much gear but on the plus side the rock is super and non polished. Route was slightly damp in places on a perfectly dry day, I'd avoid route after heavy down pours. Over all beautiful route and an epic finish to a cracking day.
Epic route with some fine views. 2nd pitch is exposed with not much gear but on the plus side the rock is super and non polished. Route was slightly damp in places on a perfectly dry day, I'd avoid route after heavy down pours. Over all beautiful route and an epic finish to a cracking day.
gav 26 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S Very intimidating second pitch. A long way before I placed a bit of gear that I had any confidence in, and only 2 good pieces in total. Didn't use the spike runner after the first overlap as it was loose, as was the downward-pointing flake just above it. Didn't really fancy the prospect of those falling directly onto my belayers head :-). Was a bit wet in places despite the long dry spell, which added to the spice a little. Brilliant climbing however and a good mental test for me.
with Mark
Very intimidating second pitch. A long way before I placed a bit of gear that I had any confidence in, and only 2 good pieces in total. Didn't use the spike runner after the first overlap as it was loose, as was the downward-pointing flake just above it. Didn't really fancy the prospect of those falling directly onto my belayers head :-). Was a bit wet in places despite the long dry spell, which added to the spice a little. Brilliant climbing however and a good mental test for me.
with Mark
Hidden 21 Jul, 2014 AltLd O/S
bantamdave 28 Jun, 2014 2nd O/S Some of the best slab climbing ever. Amazing second pitch !
with Rob Hunt, Nigel
Some of the best slab climbing ever. Amazing second pitch !
with Rob Hunt, Nigel
sgl 21 Jun, 2014 Lead
with Susie
with Susie
erbridger 18 Jun, 2014 AltLd
with Kate Edhouse
with Kate Edhouse
Kate Edhouse 18 Jun, 2014 AltLd O/S Led Pitch 1, awesome.
with Emily
Led Pitch 1, awesome.
with Emily
Denry 6 Jun, 2014 - Day with British Mountain Guide prospective students. Led by Tamsin Gay, supervised by Libby Peter. Followed on from Red slabs. Amazing day and conversation with two inspiring people. Climbed with Christine Biles as other second
with Tamsin Gay
Day with British Mountain Guide prospective students. Led by Tamsin Gay, supervised by Libby Peter. Followed on from Red slabs. Amazing day and conversation with two inspiring people. Climbed with Christine Biles as other second
with Tamsin Gay
Adam Hill 21 May, 2014 2nd A bit damp and an interesting second pitch to finish off an awesome day.
A bit damp and an interesting second pitch to finish off an awesome day.
Hidden 17 May, 2014 AltLd
Hidden 3 May, 2014 AltLd
carl_123 27 Apr, 2014 Lead O/S
ali macphee 27 Apr, 2014 2nd O/S
Hidden 15 Apr, 2014 Lead O/S
Hidden 4 Apr, 2014 Lead O/S
oldmanofmow ??, 2014 -
Si ??, 2014 -
yesbutnobutyesbut ??, 2014 -
mike mo ??, 2014 -
mike mo ??, 2014 -
Hidden ??, 2014 AltLd
Allanfairfechan ??, 2014 Lead
with Jack Graham, Brian Molyneux
with Jack Graham, Brian Molyneux
bigrob 20 Aug, 2013 Lead
with em whitehouse
with em whitehouse
Mark D 8 Aug, 2013 AltLd O/S
with Ewan Irvine
with Ewan Irvine
ewan i 8 Aug, 2013 AltLd O/S
with mark duggan
with mark duggan
bob johnson 7 Aug, 2013 2nd O/S
with Rich Ball
with Rich Ball
MoWalker3 13 Jul, 2013 AltLd
with Rick
with Rick
Zoomer 9 Jul, 2013 AltLd O/S Led the crux pitch, very, very bold unless you have small cams (00) and micro nuts. Excellent climbing.
with Si Denny
Led the crux pitch, very, very bold unless you have small cams (00) and micro nuts. Excellent climbing.
with Si Denny
Hidden 6 Jul, 2013 2nd O/S
papashango 19 Jun, 2013 AltLd pitch 2 was pretty bold and wet, felt HVS
with Jon R
pitch 2 was pretty bold and wet, felt HVS
with Jon R
Richard Kinsman ??, 2013 Lead O/S
tim20 ??, 2013 -
Richard Kinsman ??, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 1 Sep, 2012 AltLd
Hidden 11 Aug, 2012 AltLd
Mr. K 11 Aug, 2012 2nd O/S Wet and horrible pitch 1, wet and gearless and horrible pitch 2 which I backed off leading!
with Steven Mount
Wet and horrible pitch 1, wet and gearless and horrible pitch 2 which I backed off leading!
with Steven Mount
RM199 22 Jul, 2012 Lead O/S in the wet!!!
in the wet!!!
Darrell Read 6 May, 2012 Lead O/S
Hidden 5 May, 2012 Lead O/S
Amazoniangirl 5 May, 2012 2nd
climbing son 5 May, 2012 AltLd O/S
j.buckley87 5 May, 2012 AltLd O/S Ran out, dodgy belay for 3
Ran out, dodgy belay for 3
southern_smit 5 May, 2012 AltLd 2nd pitch bold and run out great classic
with james buckley, jim mc call
2nd pitch bold and run out great classic
with james buckley, jim mc call
GermanAlex 25 Feb, 2012 Lead dnf Couldn't follow the original line due to wetness, had to trend left via a break in the rock below the bubbly slab. Ended up desperately digging for protection, hammering in 2 micros followed by 4c-ish balancy climbing on barely adequate holds 4m higher. Involuntary variation was HVS for sure, a fall would have had serious consequences. Had to ab off the shallow spike on the belay as night approached.
with Camm
Couldn't follow the original line due to wetness, had to trend left via a break in the rock below the bubbly slab. Ended up desperately digging for protection, hammering in 2 micros followed by 4c-ish balancy climbing on barely adequate holds 4m higher. Involuntary variation was HVS for sure, a fall would have had serious consequences. Had to ab off the shallow spike on the belay as night approached.
with Camm
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Hidden ??, 2012 Lead
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Darron ??, 2012 -
Ian JL ??, 2012 -
Stone Idle ??, 2012 -
alan moore ??, 2012 - Brilliant.
Brilliant.
TheAndyBarker ??, 2012 -
davidtrelawnyross ??, 2012 -
TheAndyBarker ??, 2012 -
Hidden ??, 2012 -
Steven Carter ??, 2012 Lead O/S
Hidden 22 Oct, 2011 Lead
Hidden 17 Aug, 2011 AltLd O/S
Steve Woollard 5 Aug, 2011 Lead More sustained than Grey Rib, but no harder. Nice VS pitch
More sustained than Grey Rib, but no harder. Nice VS pitch
Danjones 10 Jul, 2011 AltLd O/S Bold second pitch, but steady climbing.
with Steve Keys
Bold second pitch, but steady climbing.
with Steve Keys
SteveM 2 Jul, 2011 AltLd
kitkat78 2 Jul, 2011 AltLd O/S
with SteveM
with SteveM
RossT 27 Jun, 2011 AltLd dnf had to escape right because it started to rain
had to escape right because it started to rain
Martin Bennett 20 Jun, 2011 -
with Ali
with Ali
Lev 3 Jun, 2011 2nd O/S Climbed the second pitch from the top of grey rib.
with Emma
Climbed the second pitch from the top of grey rib.
with Emma
marcoleptic 3 Jun, 2011 Lead O/S
with Pete
with Pete
Hidden 3 Jun, 2011 Lead O/S
chris smith 25 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
fizzychewitt 24 Apr, 2011 AltLd
with Martin
with Martin
joscott 24 Apr, 2011 2nd
Pete Nugent 22 Apr, 2011 AltLd rpt JN showed me a nifty appproach to the crag - under Sub Cneifion Rib and then scramble up Seniors Ridge. From the shoulder before the final section of Seniors Ridge, you can scramble diagonally down, aiming for a prominent sloping white queartz slab. From there you can work your way round to the foot of the routes. JN soloed p1, I took a more measured approach by opting to lead p2 with a rope. I found it tough perhaps because I was under the misapprehension that I was on Grey Arete!
with John Nuttall
JN showed me a nifty appproach to the crag - under Sub Cneifion Rib and then scramble up Seniors Ridge. From the shoulder before the final section of Seniors Ridge, you can scramble diagonally down, aiming for a prominent sloping white queartz slab. From there you can work your way round to the foot of the routes. JN soloed p1, I took a more measured approach by opting to lead p2 with a rope. I found it tough perhaps because I was under the misapprehension that I was on Grey Arete!
with John Nuttall
Dan Lane 18 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S Superb climbing, not a lot of gear but great fun running it out. The last pitch of an awesome day of 350m of good climbing.
Superb climbing, not a lot of gear but great fun running it out. The last pitch of an awesome day of 350m of good climbing.
Hidden 17 Apr, 2011 AltLd
Ashley Hold 17 Apr, 2011 AltLd rpt
with torquil
with torquil
bullethead 16 Apr, 2011 AltLd O/S Led P2
with Richard Yorke
Led P2
with Richard Yorke
will moy 22 Mar, 2011 Lead led both pitches then scrambled to glyder fawr. awesome day 10 pitches 1000feet of HS-VS climbing
led both pitches then scrambled to glyder fawr. awesome day 10 pitches 1000feet of HS-VS climbing
AMarchant 19 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S Second pitch during a grey rib/grey slab link up. Wouldn't of managed it without ally's superior climbing skills
Second pitch during a grey rib/grey slab link up. Wouldn't of managed it without ally's superior climbing skills
Hidden 19 Mar, 2011 AltLd O/S
Mancunianimport 17 Mar, 2011 AltLd
Hidden ??, 2011 -
31770 ??, 2011 -
petebale2000 ??, 2011 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Tobias at Home ??, 2011 -
cymjt ??, 2011 -
Tobias at Home ??, 2011 -
bsmedz ??, 2011 -
hilty ??, 2011 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??, 2011 -
Hidden ??, 2011 -
JEP ??, 2011 -
mattfarr ??, 2011 AltLd O/S
with Liam
with Liam
pasbury ??, 2011 -
grp 9 Oct, 2010 AltLd O/S
Cornish Cream ?Oct, 2010 -
Owain Llewelyn 29 Jun, 2010 2nd
with Steve
with Steve
Hidden 26 Jun, 2010 Lead
Jim Walton 20 Jun, 2010 AltLd O/S I think Mike went too high on first pitch. I lead 2nd which was fine and not too spicy
with Mike Owen
I think Mike went too high on first pitch. I lead 2nd which was fine and not too spicy
with Mike Owen
Hidden 20 Jun, 2010 AltLd
pebbles 19 Jun, 2010 AltLd O/S me pitch 1 guido pitch 2
me pitch 1 guido pitch 2
Neil Metcalfe101 12 Jun, 2010 AltLd I did 'disappointing' 1st pitch & Allan, thankfully, did the 'delicate' 2nd pitch, phew!
with Allan Mac
I did 'disappointing' 1st pitch & Allan, thankfully, did the 'delicate' 2nd pitch, phew!
with Allan Mac
RCrockford 5 Jun, 2010 AltLd O/S Lead P2 as continuation from Grey Rib. Run out was epic on the main slab.
with Jonah
Lead P2 as continuation from Grey Rib. Run out was epic on the main slab.
with Jonah
Conan 5 Jun, 2010 Lead rpt
with Dom Hall
with Dom Hall
Hidden 31 May, 2010 AltLd O/S
willson 23 May, 2010 AltLd Top pitch
with ben
Top pitch
with ben
Hidden 15 May, 2010 2nd O/S
Monkey_Alan 15 May, 2010 Lead O/S WMC Classic Rock weekend: Hope, Lazarus, The Arete, Grey Slab. Well-protected first pitch just makes the blank sections for the second seem even bolder!
with Bisset
WMC Classic Rock weekend: Hope, Lazarus, The Arete, Grey Slab. Well-protected first pitch just makes the blank sections for the second seem even bolder!
with Bisset
Hidden 11 Apr, 2010 AltLd O/S
beds74 10 Apr, 2010 - Easy climbing but run out massively for the grade. Had E2's with more gear...
with J1PEF
Easy climbing but run out massively for the grade. Had E2's with more gear...
with J1PEF
J1PEF 10 Apr, 2010 AltLd linked with heather wall, original route and arete, p2 is 4c with very poor gear, bold!!
linked with heather wall, original route and arete, p2 is 4c with very poor gear, bold!!
AngelaC 10 Apr, 2010 Lead
with dpc
with dpc
jimorothy 24 Sep, 2009 AltLd Classic. What a second pitch: there's bold and then there's BOLD! Even the classic spike runner wobbles (I had little faith in it). But what a pitch!!! Very technical - only 4b? I think I did several 4c moves. It's one for brave slabheads rather than a chimney sweep like me. Almost as hard as Great Gully! - and that is saying something!
with Rachel Crolla
Classic. What a second pitch: there's bold and then there's BOLD! Even the classic spike runner wobbles (I had little faith in it). But what a pitch!!! Very technical - only 4b? I think I did several 4c moves. It's one for brave slabheads rather than a chimney sweep like me. Almost as hard as Great Gully! - and that is saying something!
with Rachel Crolla
snakes77 18 Sep, 2009 2nd O/S having completed tennis shoe, lazarus and groove above, confidence was high or maybe to high! pitch 1 seemed fairly straight forward, needed lots of thought. pitch 2 on the other hand! hmm! wasnt a happy bunny at all. VS 4b maybe just a little to far for someone with my experience. i really didnt enjoy pitch 2 ! however i did make it up ! still a great days climbing! brilliant in fact...... need more now.. the days of Diff's and VDiff's are a thing of the past now. funny how there's no photos of climbers on this crag, its a bloody nightmare! and I loved it
with Monkey1
having completed tennis shoe, lazarus and groove above, confidence was high or maybe to high! pitch 1 seemed fairly straight forward, needed lots of thought. pitch 2 on the other hand! hmm! wasnt a happy bunny at all. VS 4b maybe just a little to far for someone with my experience. i really didnt enjoy pitch 2 ! however i did make it up ! still a great days climbing! brilliant in fact...... need more now.. the days of Diff's and VDiff's are a thing of the past now. funny how there's no photos of climbers on this crag, its a bloody nightmare! and I loved it
with Monkey1
mjackson ?Sep, 2009 -
mattkemp70 ?Sep, 2009 AltLd
with GEordie
with GEordie
Graham Westbrook ?Sep, 2009 Lead
monkey1 ?Sep, 2009 Lead O/S What can I say about this, truly fantastic end to the best days climbing I can remember. Tennis shoe, lazarus, Groove above, Grey Slab. First VS multi pitch lead, absolutely buzzing! Some serious moments but felt under control throughout. Delicate friction climbing in parts, spaced and poor gear, not the best belays, but immensley satisfying. Split the 2nd pitch into 2 using an in-situ thread belay in the grassy groove 15m up from the end of pitch 1. This helped!
with Snakes77
What can I say about this, truly fantastic end to the best days climbing I can remember. Tennis shoe, lazarus, Groove above, Grey Slab. First VS multi pitch lead, absolutely buzzing! Some serious moments but felt under control throughout. Delicate friction climbing in parts, spaced and poor gear, not the best belays, but immensley satisfying. Split the 2nd pitch into 2 using an in-situ thread belay in the grassy groove 15m up from the end of pitch 1. This helped!
with Snakes77
Hidden 8 Aug, 2009 2nd
Ste Ridd 8 Aug, 2009 Lead Friend 3 in overlap. Bold top pitch. Hope VD ***, Lazarus S4a, The Arete VD, Grey Slab VS4b done as linking climbs - Car to Car 8hrs
Friend 3 in overlap. Bold top pitch. Hope VD ***, Lazarus S4a, The Arete VD, Grey Slab VS4b done as linking climbs - Car to Car 8hrs
matt.woodfield 24 Jul, 2009 AltLd
wilkie14c 3 Jun, 2009 AltLd O/S Very bold top pitch with a very poor belay below you!
with Dave Clarke
Very bold top pitch with a very poor belay below you!
with Dave Clarke
Mark Wilson23 3 Jun, 2009 2nd O/S
with Dave Clarke, wilkie14c
with Dave Clarke, wilkie14c
jamie ward 29 May, 2009 AltLd O/S
with Stuart Williams
with Stuart Williams
Hidden 24 May, 2009 2nd
mr mills 13 Apr, 2009 Lead
with Chris
with Chris
quarrtman1 13 Apr, 2009 2nd
with mills
with mills
Hjort 5 Apr, 2009 AltLd O/S P2. Bloody scary in wet.
with Serinde Van Wijk, Matt
P2. Bloody scary in wet.
with Serinde Van Wijk, Matt
Sardien 5 Apr, 2009 AltLd O/S
with Toby Vye, Matthew Jaques
with Toby Vye, Matthew Jaques
MikeDowsett ??, 2009 2nd After a day out on Idwal Slabs, walked across to finish on Grey Slab. Walked down with head torches. A full day out.
with John Harrison, Paul Tretheway
After a day out on Idwal Slabs, walked across to finish on Grey Slab. Walked down with head torches. A full day out.
with John Harrison, Paul Tretheway
keith leonard ??, 2009 -
lost.arrow 20 Jul, 2008 -
with Stu Sherwood
with Stu Sherwood
sgl0jd 7 Jun, 2008 AltLd beautiful rock and climbing if more than a little run out on the second pitch
with Steve Hobbs
beautiful rock and climbing if more than a little run out on the second pitch
with Steve Hobbs
mjeffery 16 May, 2008 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??, 2008 Lead
poofish 8 Sep, 2007 2nd O/S
with Jon Woodhead
with Jon Woodhead
paddygoodwin 5 May, 2007 AltLd
with kleinej
with kleinej
kleinej 5 May, 2007 AltLd
robertporter 28 Apr, 2007 AltLd O/S
Keith Jones 14 Apr, 2007 2nd
John Marsland 12 Apr, 2007 AltLd O/S
with Ant and Dunc
with Ant and Dunc
mikelaing ?Apr, 2007 Lead
ajtay ?Apr, 2007 -
with Pete Smith
with Pete Smith
Hidden 3 Feb, 2007 2nd
Hidden 3 Feb, 2007 2nd O/S
Dom Whillans ??, 2007 -
tumbling wizard ??, 2007 Lead
lithos 28 Jul, 2006 AltLd O/S brilliant, maybe better to bealy lower down than suggested. friend 3 in belay as well as wires and blunt spike. Top pitch is great but run-out
brilliant, maybe better to bealy lower down than suggested. friend 3 in belay as well as wires and blunt spike. Top pitch is great but run-out
Small and weak ?Jul, 2006 AltLd
Harry Ellis ?Jul, 2006 AltLd
with Trefor Hughes
with Trefor Hughes
Hidden 2 Jun, 2006 Lead O/S
Hidden 29 Apr, 2006 AltLd
featuresforfeet 29 Apr, 2006 AltLd rpt
with Simon & Dave
with Simon & Dave
Hidden 29 Apr, 2006 AltLd
BALD EAGLE 29 Apr, 2006 AltLd
with Mark Van Rossum
with Mark Van Rossum
Andrew Barker ??, 2006 AltLd O/S
with Phil Applegate
with Phil Applegate
dan gibson ??, 2006 -
keith leonard ??, 2006 -
Hidden ??, 2006 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?Jun, 2005 Lead
Hidden ?May, 2005 AltLd O/S
chris wyatt ??, 2005 Lead O/S
with JAck Graham
with JAck Graham
Steve Lenartowicz ??, 2005 -
with Clare
with Clare
donkster ??, 2005 AltLd O/S
with mudders
with mudders
Norman_P_W 14 Aug, 2004 AltLd
with Bob M
with Bob M
Bob M 14 Aug, 2004 AltLd
Swirly ?Aug, 2004 Lead dnf
with Pete Morgan
with Pete Morgan
Hidden 20 Jun, 2004 AltLd O/S
ChrisBrooke 24 Apr, 2004 AltLd
with John Inkpen
with John Inkpen
Batty 16 Aug, 2003 AltLd dnf
Rob Davies 1 Aug, 2003 Lead The slab was dry and pleasant but there was a lot of sodden vegetation elsewhere.
with David Kinniburgh
The slab was dry and pleasant but there was a lot of sodden vegetation elsewhere.
with David Kinniburgh
John HW ?Jun, 2003 AltLd
with Cath
with Cath
shaun walby ?Jun, 2003 AltLd O/S
with Phil West
with Phil West
caradoc 1 Sep, 2002 AltLd O/S Wet, slightly disturbing at the time.
with MikeW
Wet, slightly disturbing at the time.
with MikeW
aged_ape ?Jul, 2002 AltLd O/S
with Matt O
with Matt O
Phil West 23 Jun, 2002 AltLd O/S Led crux pitch which was wet. Entertaining wearing a rucksack.
with Shaun Walby
Led crux pitch which was wet. Entertaining wearing a rucksack.
with Shaun Walby
shaun walby 23 Jun, 2002 AltLd O/S
with Phil West
with Phil West
Hidden ??, 2001 -
Mark Wright 10 Sep, 2000 2nd
with Gareth Hughes
with Gareth Hughes
jmr ?Jun, 2000 AltLd
with Paul Greenhow
with Paul Greenhow
Hidden ??, 2000 -
John H Bull (tcfka Bullybones) ??, 2000 -
Tim Sparrow ??, 2000 Lead
with Toby E
with Toby E
babymoac 19 Aug, 1999 Lead
with Graeme
with Graeme
Hidden 19 Jun, 1999 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??, 1999 -
Mick King 30 May, 1998 Lead O/S
with Steve Brodie
with Steve Brodie
FatRob ??, 1998 Lead O/S
with Jim Strange
with Jim Strange
Ian Archer 9 Aug, 1997 AltLd
with Danny Hale
with Danny Hale
Ched ??, 1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
with Glanfor
Derek Ryden 18 Aug, 1996 AltLd O/S
with Bill, Lizzie
with Bill, Lizzie
Rog Wilko ?Jun, 1996 Lead Great route that it is, I think this is still undergraded at VS. Pitch two is sustained 4c with very little gear. That's HVS in my book.
with Debbie Wilkinson
Great route that it is, I think this is still undergraded at VS. Pitch two is sustained 4c with very little gear. That's HVS in my book.
with Debbie Wilkinson
Hidden 25 Jul, 1995 Lead
Nigel R Lewis 21 Jul, 1995 2nd
with Gary Lewis
with Gary Lewis
Budge ?Jul, 1995 AltLd O/S
with Richard Teed
with Richard Teed
Rich ??, 1995 -
Iain Brown 23 Sep, 1994 -
with Colin
with Colin
Neil McA 9 Jul, 1994 Lead O/S Bold and damp!
with Sue McAdie
Bold and damp!
with Sue McAdie
FatRob ?Jul, 1994 Lead O/S
with Jim Strange
with Jim Strange
auld al ?May, 1994 AltLd O/S
Ken lindsay ??, 1994 2nd O/S
Hidden 24 May, 1992 AltLd
Hidden 15 Jul, 1990 Lead O/S
BigHairyIan 13 Apr, 1990 Lead O/S
with Martin (from South America)
with Martin (from South America)
Andy Say 8 Apr, 1990 Solo O/S
phardman ??, 1990 -
AlanLittle ?Sep, 1989 AltLd
with Tom Dillon
with Tom Dillon
nigehughes ?Jun, 1988 Lead
with Mark Troy
with Mark Troy
tapley 21 May, 1988 Lead
with Tony Raphael
with Tony Raphael
Iain Thow 14 May, 1988 AltLd Led pitch 2, only 2 runners in 150ft.
with Steve Ball
Led pitch 2, only 2 runners in 150ft.
with Steve Ball
rogerskews 9 May, 1987 AltLd
with Martin Coward
with Martin Coward
freeheel47 ??, 1987 -
Hidden 11 Oct, 1986 Solo O/S
Nick Biven ??, 1986 -
Mark Kemball 4 Jul, 1985 Lead
with Chris May
with Chris May
JohnHutch 22 Jul, 1983 Lead Thin - and v little pro!
with L
Thin - and v little pro!
with L
charlesmfrench 29 Oct, 1982 AltLd O/S S,2.
with Alan Bennett
S,2.
with Alan Bennett
Nigel Bond 9 May, 1982 Lead
with Rodger Edenborough
with Rodger Edenborough
nigehughes ?Apr, 1982 AltLd
with Ian Maguire
with Ian Maguire
Nigel Coe 27 Mar, 1982 AltLd
with Frank Farrell
with Frank Farrell
clanger ??, 1982 -
Hidden 10 Apr, 1981 AltLd O/S
MikeDowsett ??, 1981 Lead
with Jon Sharpe
with Jon Sharpe
Hidden 12 Jul, 1980 AltLd
Hidden ??, 1980 -
Brian Wilderspin 21 Sep, 1978 AltLd
DonnyDave 10 Aug, 1978 AltLd
with Steve Holgarth
with Steve Holgarth
pneame ?Sep, 1976 Solo O/S
mikej 21 Aug, 1976 Lead
with Brian Norris
with Brian Norris
Hidden ??, 1975 -
Hidden 22 Aug, 1973 AltLd
zukator ??, 1970 -
jcw 24 Oct, 1965 -
with Ron James
with Ron James
kjacks ??, 1965 2nd
with Dave Peers
with Dave Peers
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