Rockfax Description
Pull through the bulge and pad up the unprotected slab. © Rockfax

Ticklists: Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List.

MikeyP 04/Dec/16 TR
fuzzysheep01 01/Oct/16 Solo O/S

Felt 5a for sure - really nice move through the roof then some great padding. Definitely harder than the HVS next door. Would have thought it deserved E1 as in the Rockfax, but wasn't really looking at the gear potential.

joemallia 28/May/16 2nd
ColinD 14/May/16 Lead
with David Myatt
Hidden 09/May/16 -
Wizzy 05/May/16 Solo O/S

soft e1 5a?

Hidden 05/May/16 2nd
MSchobitz 05/May/16 Solo O/S

Harder than short slab.

Calum Wadsworth 05/May/16 Solo O/S

Certainly harder than the one to the right.

with Wizzy, micki
Hidden ?/May/16 -
Cake 23/Apr/16 2nd

Point 5

Hidden 17/Apr/16 Solo O/S
Hidden 10/Apr/16 Lead rpt
Cake 10/Apr/16 Lead O/S

Nearly worth the E point, but it is safe, so no. Very nice climbing

with Matt
ashtond6 09/Apr/16 Solo O/S
mattcooperkay 18/Mar/16 TR O/S

TR Solo

MrFantastic 06/Mar/16 Solo O/S
Hidden 27/Feb/16 Lead O/S
Robin Nichols 11/Dec/15 Solo O/S
Hidden 02/Oct/15 TR
Hidden 25/Sep/15 Lead
Gudge 22/Sep/15 Lead O/S
bobpilgrem 22/Sep/15 2nd

This has to be E15b-much harder than short slab.

with Gudge
Hidden 24/Jun/15 Solo O/S
Hidden 24/Jun/15 Lead
Martin Bagshaw 20/Jun/15 Solo O/S
Phil Layton 07/Jun/15 Lead O/S

Scary, but held it together...risk of ground fall.

with Phil Laxton
amccann 25/May/15 Solo rpt
Jake Young 03/May/15 Solo O/S
chrisbussell 28/Apr/15 2nd
with Tim O'Neill
morganator 26/Apr/15 Solo
Hidden 19/Apr/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Apr/15 2nd rpt
Hidden 10/Apr/15 -
Hidden 10/Apr/15 -
jshields 22/Mar/15 Lead

Repeat, previous solo Feb'96

MikeDowsett 22/Mar/15 2nd

with a little help from the rope.

Jackwd 07/Mar/15 Lead O/S
Shannyb 07/Mar/15 2nd
monkeyman79 07/Mar/15 2nd O/S
with Jon Hubbard
amccann 06/Mar/15 Solo O/S
Nick1812P 06/Mar/15 Solo O/S
with speedy, Fran
Wayne S 26/Oct/14 Lead β
with Dale
D Berry 26/Oct/14 2nd rpt
with Wayne S
abtibbs 12/Oct/14 2nd O/S
with Tom Danish
Dan Vaj 13/Sep/14 2nd O/S
mark4344 13/Sep/14 2nd
with Matt Payne
Jimbo C 24/Aug/14 2nd rpt
with Chris, Spiros
al123 ?/Aug/14 Solo
Deezel65 31/Jul/14 Lead O/S

No harder than short slab

cragtyke 31/Jul/14 2nd
with Ross
Hidden 21/Jul/14 -
Hidden 21/Jul/14 -
WillDoyle 09/Jun/14 Solo O/S
dannyboy83 01/Jun/14 Solo O/S
Charles Kinniburgh 26/May/14 2nd
Rob Davies 26/May/14 TR rpt

Declined to lead this!

Hidden ?/May/14 -
john_ni 27/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Matthew Ferrier 22/Feb/14 Solo O/S

Nice. Another route people should pay attention to.

nimajneb ?/Feb/14 Lead
Hidden ??/2014 -
Hidden 15/Nov/13 Solo
NickJH 06/Oct/13 Lead O/S
with LiamG
mickd 06/Jul/13 Solo O/S

HVS in the guidebook sounds about right. Felt a bit easier than short slab.

climberchristy 30/Jun/13 Lead O/S

Pleasant route but nowhere near as good as guide book suggests because it's a one move wonder. Got E1 at the time in our guide book. Now rightly downgraded to HVS. Runout above crux but easy climbing by them.

with bencole
Hardcore Pat 29/Jun/13 Lead O/S
with Dan Osbasabooboo, Matt Tregellas
treg 29/Jun/13 2nd
with Patrick
Jimbo C 03/Jun/13 Lead O/S

nothing harder than 5a here and actually felt easier than Short Slab. Not sure how this ever gets E1, but it is a superb route anyway.

with Chris
bencole ?/Jun/13 Lead O/S
philboy 19/May/13 Lead
with matt g
Hidden 19/May/13 2nd rpt
masa-alpin 03/Mar/13 Lead O/S

Harder and less protected than Three Pebble Slab. Undergraded in the definitive guidebook (2010) as HVS.

with Brian Q
Stefan_Morris 11/Nov/12 Lead O/S
with Jess Swift
Hidden 27/Oct/12 Solo rpt
mark20 27/Oct/12 Solo rpt
CRiddiford 27/Oct/12 Solo β
with Ima, Chris, Mark
Benn A 27/Oct/12 Lead RP
Hidden 21/Oct/12 Solo β
Hidden 20/Oct/12 TR O/S
Rich Kay 20/Oct/12 TR
sting 29/Sep/12 Lead RP

Friction is a wonderful thing ;)

with kwaidy
kwaidy 29/Sep/12 Lead rpt

Glad to close the book on this one great climb.

with sting
Ewano 15/Jul/12 Lead O/S

Lovely moves, nice and airy at the top.

eel 15/Jul/12 2nd O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/12 2nd
Hidden ?/Jul/12 2nd
disturbed_one51 16/May/12 Solo
Hidden 16/May/12 Lead
charley 12/May/12 Lead O/S
chumleywarner 12/May/12 2nd O/S
harold walmsley 22/Mar/12 Solo O/S

Lovely route. I agree with the HVS in the definitive guide.

remus 11/Mar/12 Solo O/S

No way it's E1. Pretty mediocre.

spragglerocks 10/Mar/12 Lead O/S
with Nigel M
Hidden 29/Feb/12 Solo O/S
Dan Lane 29/Feb/12 Lead O/S

Pull over the overlap was fairly easy but the tricky move on the slab spooked me a bit, i was expecting the overlap to be the crux. Alright once i got on with it.

with Ruth Taylor
Dave 88 16/Jan/12 Solo O/S

The climb 3PS wishes it was! Cracking moves. It even has it's own little grade debate! (E1 5a by the way). Fantastic stuff.

Kim M ??/2012 Lead O/S
with Nige
Hidden 29/Oct/11 Lead
mark20 16/Oct/11 Lead O/S
bigdrew 16/Oct/11 2nd O/S
with Mark R
al123 02/Oct/11 Solo

nice but not so sure about the hvs 5b grade. maybe just about a 5a move low down but then a steady slab above. i think VS 5a might be more appropriate?

with louis
Mike_Hayes 24/Sep/11 Lead O/S
with Sarah Marks
knicos 03/Sep/11 Lead O/S
with Paul Salmon
Paul1 03/Sep/11 Lead O/S

E1 for the runout (especialy when the only cam that fits in the top break is sitting on the second) but fairly staight forward climbing. very engoyable.

with Nick
col3 03/Sep/11 2nd

Ran to grab my shoes and was glad I did. Hard but fun. Had to rest due to tiredness and the fact the cams were so wedged it was a real struggle to get them out! Def E1 for potentially dangerous runout. Slab doesn't really have holds, all about trust...!

with Nick
Hidden 20/Aug/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 20/Aug/11 Lead O/S
aretherenoneleft 14/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Graeme Hammond 14/Jul/11 Solo rpt

matt led, Rachel 2nded and I ended up soloing again. Great stuff :)

max_chan 14/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Jim Slater 14/Jul/11 Solo O/S
Hidden 02/Jul/11 Lead
Hidden 18/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Misha 18/Jun/11 Solo O/S

Been a while since I've done a grit slab but this was perfectly amenable. HVS 5a (Ant said there was decent gear in a break towards the top). Done on the Saturday morning of Ian's 50th birthday weekend. After soloing Short Slab and a couple of boulder problems to the left, a heavy shower forced us all off the crag. Went on to climb at Stoney in the afternoon.

ASchwirtz 18/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Rich Malcolm 10/Jun/11 Lead rpt
with Matt Brennan
shouter 14/May/11 Lead
colin milton 14/May/11 2nd
with martin
cragtyke 02/May/11 2nd
Will_Maxwell 21/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with Rafael Pena
kitkat78 20/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with Graham P
Steve Waters, Mynydd 16/Apr/11 Lead

4c with good gear to get established on the slab. Slab is runout with a 5a move low down. A decent cam placement near the top. Overall - HVS.

with Richard Waltham and Maria Goggin
adam carless 09/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with Graphiclunarkid, scc, dpmuk
graphiclunarkid 09/Apr/11 TR O/S

Felt more like 5a to me but that might be the top-rope talking.

Hidden 09/Apr/11 2nd O/S
dpmUK 09/Apr/11 2nd O/S
Ram MkiV 28/Mar/11 Solo O/S
with Guy
Hidden 28/Mar/11 Solo O/S
Graeme Hammond 12/Mar/11 Solo rpt
Hidden 08/Feb/11 2nd β
Hidden 21/Jan/11 Solo
Alison2 ??/2011 2nd
Hidden ??/2011 -
cymjt ??/2011 -
Jonathan Hall 16/Nov/10 Lead
clintos 24/Oct/10 Solo
John Postlethwaite 16/Oct/10 Solo O/S
with Big John
hrgcb 02/Oct/10 Solo O/S
D Berry 19/Sep/10 Solo rpt
Ann S 09/Sep/10 TR
with Chris Tan
joese7en 30/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Aug/10 Lead O/S
9fingerjon 17/Aug/10 2nd O/S
with Matt G
jtree03 25/Jul/10 2nd
with Tony, Elt, Brother Al
Goodstuff 19/Jul/10 Solo O/S
dashitboarder 11/Jul/10 TR
with Dad
Ketu 28/Jun/10 Lead rpt
Graeme Hammond 28/Jun/10 2nd O/S

good route worth seeking out, very soft if its E1. E1 5a is a better reflection of the difficulties and protection of the upper part.

with Rob
Graeme Hammond 28/Jun/10 Solo rpt

liked a lot on 2nd and felt soft enough to solo so i did. probably better than 3TPS and without the hype

highrepute 30/May/10 Solo O/S
Hidden 27/May/10 Lead
nathanlee 27/Apr/10 Solo O/S
rob1 ??/2010 Lead
RM199 ??/2010 2nd O/S
WendyT 03/Oct/09 2nd O/S
with James Marsh
Hidden 20/Sep/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 07/Sep/09 Solo O/S
Mick r 23/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Scott, Martin
gazfellows 03/Aug/09 2nd
Aufton 05/Jun/09 Lead O/S
HimTiggins 23/May/09 Lead O/S
cragspud 11/May/09 Lead O/S
with Wharncliffebabe
Martin Haworth 13/Apr/09 Lead O/S
with Andy
Hidden 05/Apr/09 TR
Sankey 30/Mar/09 2nd O/S
with Reuben
nmwr 03/Jan/09 Lead O/S
with John Sergeant
Hidden 02/Jan/09 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2009 -
Wayne S ??/2009 Lead
Hidden 18/Oct/08 Lead O/S
sce8 11/Oct/08 Lead β
with Gemma Fisher and Gareth Williams
gw66 11/Oct/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 10/Oct/08 Lead O/S
j.buckley87 01/Oct/08 Lead O/S
hugh2002 18/Sep/08 Lead dnf

Huge fall from 6 inches shy of the top. Next time it says 'unprotected slab' in the guidebook I'll believe them.

with Gem
nathanmanc ?/Sep/08 Solo O/S
with Ben Lea
IanJackson 01/Jul/08 Solo O/S
with Adam1973
dickie01 15/May/08 Lead O/S
with Nick Briggs
Coel Hellier 17/Feb/08 Lead
Hidden 09/Feb/08 2nd
D Berry 06/Jan/08 Solo rpt
daveagriff ??/2008 Lead
John Sergeant ??/2008 Lead
Wayne S ??/2008 Lead
aulda 04/Nov/07 Lead O/S
with Kulbir
Rob Davies 04/Nov/07 Lead
with Phil Ashton
Chris the Tall 21/Oct/07 Solo rpt
Milne 20/Oct/07 TR O/S

steady and nice.

BigToe 20/Oct/07 TR
with Milne
Owen W-G 06/Oct/07 Solo O/S
with Max
D Berry 09/Jun/07 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
Hidden 04/May/07 Solo O/S
craig matheson ?/Apr/07 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2007 -
Hidden 15/Oct/06 2nd
D Berry 08/Jul/06 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
MeMeMe 29/Apr/06 Lead O/S

Soft touch

with Nick
Boy ??/2006 -
D Berry 06/Aug/05 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
Hidden 23/Jul/05 2nd
D Berry 05/Jun/05 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
Phil West 23/Apr/05 Lead RP
with Shaun Walby
Andy Clarke 23/Apr/05 Lead O/S

Fine moves getting onto the slab.

with Johnny
D Berry 10/Apr/05 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
dan_o_b ??/2005 Lead O/S
NeilGriffiths 29/Sep/04 -
with Dave Garry
Hidden 21/Aug/04 Lead
mikej 22/Jun/04 Lead
with Rick Naylor
Whealiebob 25/Apr/04 Lead O/S
with Chris
Ben1983 ?/Sep/03 Solo O/S
D Berry 31/May/03 Lead rpt
with Claire Berry
D Berry 26/Apr/03 Lead O/S
with Claire Berry
cem 13/Apr/03 Lead O/S
with Liam Mark, Graham Dolman
mikej 24/Sep/02 TR
with Rick Naylor
Hidden 07/Apr/02 Lead O/S
Mark Davies PK ??/2002 Lead O/S
mikej 11/Dec/01 TR
with Mr Shunt
Reds 27/Aug/00 -
Hidden ?/Apr/00 Lead
Hidden 19/Mar/00 Solo
Martin Bennett 19/Mar/00 -
with Ray Hughes, MT
tlr ??/2000 Solo
Hidden ??/2000 -
Hidden ??/2000 Lead
fellgazelle ??/2000 Lead O/S
with Alan Haigh
Strong Steve 22/Aug/99 Lead O/S
cragspud ?/Jul/99 Lead O/S
with Wharncliffebabe
Wharncliffebabe ?/Jul/99 2nd O/S
with Cragspud
Hidden 19/Jun/99 2nd
Rog Wilko ?/Oct/96 2nd
with ??
Ropeboy 19/Jun/96 Solo
Hidden 18/Jun/96 TR
Chris the Tall ?/Jun/95 Solo O/S
John Southworth 08/May/95 Solo O/S
nai ??/1995 Lead
daprince ??/1994 Solo
The Reaper 19/Aug/93 Solo O/S
Mick King 17/Jul/93 TR
Mick King 17/Jul/93 Solo
crossleysm ??/1993 Solo O/S
Roget 04/Oct/92 Solo rpt
Tony Little 13/May/92 Solo O/S
with Chris, Vince, Alan and James
Hidden 11/Apr/92 Solo
Hidden 20/Sep/90 Solo
J R R Hartley ?/Jun/89 Solo
Hidden 01/Jan/89 Solo
Rob Davies ??/1989 Lead
with Mick Moss
Andy Say 30/Dec/88 Solo
steve prior ?/Oct/88 Lead G/U
with Claire P
Dave Musgrove 03/Apr/88 Lead
with David, Jim Worthington
Michael Hood 27/Mar/88 Lead

Given E1 5b at the time, I suspect it depends on which pockets you think are in and which are out.

Roget ??/1988 TR O/S
with jim, jon
Hidden 01/Aug/87 Solo
Hidden ??/1987 Solo O/S
Carl Hamer ??/1987 TR O/S
Hidden 28/Sep/86 Solo
goi.ashmore 06/Jun/86 Solo O/S
Tom V ??/1986 -
Hidden 30/Oct/85 Solo
Hidden 08/Oct/85 Solo
Rob Seymour ?/May/85 Lead
with Jim Seymour
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High E1
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High 5b
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High 5a
Mid 5a
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High 4c
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Style of ascent
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