An Amazing Route with varied and interesting climbing up the buttress between DDT and Praying Mantis.

Ticklists: Classic Rock Climbs of Great Britain by Bill Birkett, Great Wall Climbs of the UK, Kendal Wall's Best 100 climbs in Britain, Ultimate E2 ticklist, UK Lonely Leads.

joeflan 13/Aug Lead O/S
with George
ferdia 09/Jul AltLd O/S
with Pete Graham
Neil Adams 17/Jun AltLd O/S
with Brian
Brian Pollock 17/Jun AltLd O/S

Lead p1. Just enough gear with a few micro cams. Delicate right traverse was very delicate indeed. Traverses further left than you might initially think - look for the peg above. Excellent route.

with Neil
WB 09/Apr Lead O/S
with Duncan
Rob Rocket 09/Apr AltLd O/S
with Dave Parton
Hidden ??/2017 -
Mike505 26/Jul/16 Lead dog
with Neil
climbingpixie 30/May/16 AltLd O/S

P2. Glad to be seconding the first pitch, found it quite hard and scary! Route was clean enough and chalked but route finding still tricky on P1.

with Andy
Hidden 30/May/16 AltLd O/S
CMoore 22/Apr/16 AltLd

Lead p1 and half of p2. Got a bit lost and headed left too early. V dirty, GPN cleaned a bit on the abseil. Needs more traffic on this great route, get on it!

GPN 22/Apr/16 AltLd rpt

Great route. Led the 2nd half of p2. The peg before the traverse looks new. Cleaned the holds on the way down - get on it!

Hidden ??/2016 -
Fatherof2 14/Jul/15 AltLd O/S

Cracking. First pitch not quite as bold maybe as i remember not too far from peg on crucial step across. Led top pitch great climbing well out there.

with Jeff
ned_85 17/May/15 2nd dnf
OliverRoss 17/May/15 Lead dnf

Lead pitch one very slowly from route finding, then had to ab to go and help out at work. One to finish next time in the Lakes.

with Neil Davies
johno072 ??/2015 Lead
Hidden ??/2015 -
Brannock 14/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

led pitch one, some pretty exciting bits, just about still in the safe but scary category and just about clean enough! Some pretty full on moves above gear pulling into the groove at the start, around the over lap and on the transverse (faith in friction required). Top pitch bit of a contrast, with loads of gear and beefy moves. Top end E2.

Martin Haworth 14/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Led P2, good lead by John on P1.

Hidden ?/Sep/14 Lead O/S
samrad 09/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
farmus21 09/Jul/14 AltLd

Lead P1, 2nd P2. Dirty and sub-optimal gear. Route finding a bit tricky with the moss and such. Very committing.

with Sam Radcliffe
Abi Chard 21/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
with Ian
Hidden 21/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 24/May/14 Lead
Hidden ??/2014 -
mike reed 27/Jul/13 Lead O/S

Good. Bold for E2 and a bit dirty but quality climbing. Should be E3 for the lack of gear IMHO.

Rachel S 27/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

P2, thank god! I thought it was hard for 5c, small holds.

with Mike
stuart34 22/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
with Ben Smith
JulesV 07/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with Shauna Cunningham
Paul Figg 08/Jun/13 AltLd
Nick Clement 08/Jun/13 AltLd

Great route, quite mossy and tricky route finding on the first pitch. Awesome 2nd pitch.

with Paul Figg
mark20 09/Sep/12 2nd β

Gave up leading/cleaning just before the step back right. Dirty and committing.

Hidden 09/Sep/12 Lead β
david morse 04/Jun/12 AltLd β
with todd
Hidden 04/Jun/12 AltLd β
Hidden 29/May/12 Lead O/S
nia 29/May/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 27/May/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 27/May/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 23/May/12 Lead
bobjohnston ?/May/12 2nd
barni 14/Jul/11 Lead O/S

second pitch

with Bob
cooperman 02/Jul/11 Lead β

Better protected than it's reputation suggests. The peg appeared new. Absorbing, technical climbing but good rests between the tricky bits.

with Chris Rabs
dodfoster 23/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
GPN 04/Jun/11 Lead dnf

Ab'd off after 1st pitch. A bit dirty - confusing route finding.

with Annette
Hidden 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
esther ?/Jun/11 Lead
Dizz 29/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with hugh, David B
Scraggadoo 29/Apr/11 Lead
with John Mason
phil64 ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
daviesxxx ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 Lead dnf
buzby78 04/Sep/10 Lead
Hidden 27/Jun/10 2nd
Maz J 18/Jun/10 AltLd

led p2 (following p1 of DDT)

John Pickles 24/May/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/May/10 2nd O/S
jacobjlloyd 01/May/10 Lead dog

Went up too early on pitch one, snapped off a hold, fell onto the in-situ nut. Followed the traverse around ore second attempt, didn't trust the peg, felt bold but not hard.

Pete Graham ?/Jul/09 Lead O/S
with Rick Graham
Dave Rumney 31/May/09 Lead

1st pitch only. Dirty and no chalk to show the way. Probably first time it's been done this year. Cleaner and chalked now though

with Tanya Milner
Ally Baba 25/Apr/09 AltLd
with Gav Swinton
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
sadams 15/Jun/08 AltLd

led first pitch which felt pretty pokey and somewhat mossy

with Eric Hildrew
Ram MkiV 12/May/08 Lead O/S
with Al M & Tom M & Andy G
andy gravestock 10/May/08 AltLd O/S

tom is crap so i did it

with tall tom
DavidEvans 14/Apr/07 AltLd

Led 2

Adam Ellwood 14/Apr/07 AltLd rpt
Eduardo Martinez 29/Jul/06 Lead O/S
middlevern ?/Jul/06 AltLd

led p2

jim robertson ??/2006 -
Bob ??/2006 -
Neil Ireson ?/Jul/05 AltLd
with Pete M
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe ??/2005 -
jeffmcd56 ??/2005 Lead O/S
with Wez
Hidden ??/2002 AltLd O/S
simon cox ??/2000 -
Hidden 05/Sep/99 2nd
andybirtwistle 27/Jun/96 AltLd
with Steve Brewis
daviesxxx ??/1995 Lead
roncaves 12/Jun/94 AltLd
with James Thomas
Martin Bennett 31/May/94 -
with SW, MD
Rich Kirby ?/May/94 AltLd O/S
craig h 30/May/93 Lead O/S
with Stan
Steve Crowe 06/May/93 Lead O/S
with KM
Johnny Baker ??/1993 -
Johnny Baker ??/1993 -
Hidden ??/1993 Lead
Hidden ??/1992 Lead O/S
FATBOYFAT ??/1991 -
with Jeff Badman
Hidden ?/Jul/90 -
allmag ?/May/90 AltLd

The main wall after the 'simian' traverse feels very bold - no gear to speak of - but the holds keep coming (small but enough). The peg before the crux traverse looked old and scary, especially since a similarly aged peg on Vertigo, Black Crag, had pulled out by hand the day before? The crux is like a delicate boulder problem in the sky with only that peg between you and the ground! Great relief to reach the grooved arete. Mog led next pitch which was excellent. One of the most satisfying Lakes routes.

andy gittins ??/1990 -
Hidden 23/Jun/89 2nd
Hidden 11/Jun/88 Lead
Rich Kirby ??/1988 AltLd
with Greg Cornforth
Lone Rider ?/May/86 AltLd
with John Christie
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ??/1986 AltLd O/S
with Nick Keekus
keefe 04/Jul/85 -
daviesxxx ??/1985 -
Hidden 18/Jul/84 AltLd
Hammy 05/Jul/84 AltLd
with Colin Struthers
mark-abz 16/Jun/84 2nd
with Walter P
tmawer 02/Jun/84 Lead O/S
with sylvia
Paul Clarke ??/1984 Lead
with Unsure
charlesmfrench 05/Oct/83 AltLd


jon 06/Aug/83 Lead
with H
Mike Owen 20/Jun/83 Lead O/S
with Steve Foxley
Bruce Kerr 18/Jun/83 Lead
with Neville McNeil
Hidden ?/Jun/81 Lead
Nic Robinson 17/Apr/81 Lead O/S
with Nick Bond
Hidden 16/Apr/81 Lead O/S
Dave Musgrove 28/Sep/80 AltLd
with Kim Greenald
duncan ?/Jun/80 -
with Mark ?
redjerry ?/Apr/80 Lead O/S
with Roy Williamson
Hidden ??/1978 AltLd
Hidden 19/May/77 AltLd
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