55m, 2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
A tough pitch. Start 5m to the right of Imitator, below the centre of the wall. Move diagonally left across the wall on good holds, until you can move up into a thin crack-line. Head up this to reach easier terrain where Imitator crosses the wall. Move up to gain the left-hand of the two thin cracks, and follow it past a couple of overlaps until forced to move to the right-hand crack (crux). If successful, follow the crack to the top and belay on a small ledge. Scramble up to the path below the upper tier, and maybe climb Eternal Optimist. © Rockfax

Al Evans, Jim Moran,Geoff Milburn, Ben Winterngham 23/Jul/1978

Ticklists: Gogarth Extreme Gems, North Wales Rock Graded List, Full of Myself - Johnny's Book namecheck, Ultimate E2 ticklist.

Chriswallis2 08/Aug/17 Lead O/S
with Mike W
Lenny 02/Jul/17 Lead O/S
with Hidden
Ellis Bird ?/Jul/17 Lead O/S
Derek Ryden 29/May/17 2nd rpt
geoff b 29/May/17 Lead

Top end E2, if not E3. Lots of climbing on it & surprisingly hard low down. Great climbing.

with Derek Blizzard
JamesWilliams 13/Apr/17 Lead O/S

Spicy low down and tough at the top but ace crux moves

James Beaumont 13/Apr/17 2nd O/S

Nice moves, looked spicy at the start

with Chris Bennett, James Williams
Dave Almond 02/Apr/17 2nd
with Liam Gaston
beagly77 ??/2017 -
Mike_Hayes 17/Sep/16 2nd rpt
with John Nightingale
Adam Lincoln 28/Aug/16 Lead O/S
with Charlie Woodburn
pete johnson 26/Jul/16 Lead O/S

Alzheimers on sight!

with Elliot
Hidden 17/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Rachel S 17/Jul/16 2nd
with Mike D
Hidden 11/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Jul/16 2nd
Hidden 10/Jul/16 Lead
eel ?/Jun/16 Lead O/S
LJKing 29/May/16 2nd O/S
with Paul Clarkson
Dave Lyon 28/May/16 Lead rpt
with Mills
patrickcd 14/May/16 2nd rpt
with Andy
Hidden 08/May/16 Lead
Hidden 08/May/16 2nd
esther ?/May/16 2nd
Hidden 24/Apr/16 AltLd O/S
Mike_Hayes 10/Apr/16 Lead
Sardien 13/Feb/16 Lead rpt

Pleased to be up this again at the end of a surprisingly mild day at the main cliff. Good start to the season!

with Andy Scott
saintlade ??/2016 -
Hidden ??/2016 -
Twid Turner ??/2016 -
Adam Booth 26/Sep/15 2nd O/S
with John Roberts, Jon Morgan
Hidden 26/Sep/15 Lead
morganator 26/Sep/15 2nd
with JR
pauldrew 01/Aug/15 2nd
with Stewart Leitch
redshapedfriday 01/Aug/15 2nd O/S
GPN 01/Aug/15 Lead O/S

Tricky! Peak E3 or Northumberland E1.

MichaelGallimore 23/Jul/15 Lead O/S
with jon lawson
soph 04/Jul/15 2nd rpt
with John Crook
shed_hed 02/Jul/15 Lead O/S

Lovely route - one of the best at Gogarth. Tricky to find gear but enough there, felt steady for E2.

robpartridge 02/Jul/15 2nd
with Darren McMaster
Dizz 27/Jun/15 2nd O/S
with EJ
Mike W 05/May/15 Lead O/S
Sadie 17/Apr/15 Lead O/S

Thought provoking route! Well worth doing! Glad I took my brassies!! Would be 6a for big fingers...

with Zofia
Hidden ??/2015 -
Ed morris 01/Oct/14 Lead O/S
with Steve
stevoland 01/Oct/14 2nd β
Hidden 28/Sep/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Sep/14 Lead O/S
w.pettet-smith 29/Jun/14 Lead

Hard for grade but very very good. Plenty of gear even with ought micros.

James Oswald 26/May/14 2nd O/S

Seconded Nick, ace.

with Nick Duboust
NDD 26/May/14 Lead O/S
with james
PaulTanton 25/May/14 2nd rpt

E1 5c

The Grist 25/May/14 Lead O/S
Jake Young 18/May/14 2nd O/S
with Mike
Ewan Russell 27/Apr/14 Lead O/S
with Anna
Hidden 11/Apr/14 Lead
Hidden 29/Mar/14 2nd O/S
mike mo ??/2014 -
Allanfairfechan ??/2014 2nd
with Dave Woodcock
Frank the Husky ??/2014 -
pasbury ??/2014 -
Will Sheaff 09/Aug/13 AltLd O/S

Led p2 (4c)

with Will Harris
James Oswald 05/Aug/13 2nd O/S

Really good. Bold lower section which you wouldn't want to fall off, multiple 5c moves then a hard 6a(just) crux. As hard as e2 gets? ace

Hidden 02/Aug/13 Lead
Hidden 26/May/13 2nd
will9911 25/May/13 Lead O/S
tim newton 16/May/13 2nd O/S
Owain Llewelyn 16/May/13 2nd rpt
with Gareth E
dprctr 05/May/13 Lead dnf

Seconded a year ago. Underestimated it. Too scared and buggered up crux, very thin but well protected.

with Patrick
dswansonlow 26/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Alex Mason 26/Apr/13 2nd
Sardien 03/Mar/13 Lead rpt

Superhappy with this

with Gwen Lancashire
Sardien 28/Aug/12 2nd O/S

Amazing absolutely immaculate climbing what a joy

with Andy Scott
Hidden 09/Aug/12 2nd O/S
leon 09/Aug/12 Lead O/S
Scraggadoo 14/Jul/12 Lead O/S
charlietorrance 04/Jul/12 2nd

hardest E2 I have ever done. cool climbing though.lead the second scramble pitch and thought it was pretty scary!

with callum
Hidden 06/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Owen W-G 04/Jun/12 Lead O/S

Standard e2 hard 5c very 3 star

with Ryan
Hidden 02/Jun/12 2nd O/S
Duncan Campbell 03/May/12 Lead O/S

Brilliant varied route. Nothing feels 6a on it (though I have small fingers) and it feels more E3 due to the bold bottom section with IMO tricky 5c moves into a sustained 5c crack. ***

with Bubbles
jgordon75 22/Apr/12 Lead O/S

Always something positive for the feet - not sure that it is 6a. A lovely pitch though, one of the best single pitches I have done.

with Dom Bush
givemetea 21/Apr/12 Lead rpt

First 6a lead - not onsight as I seconded this route last year. Stoked nonetheless!

dprctr 21/Apr/12 2nd β

Fun seconding this with delicate climbing. Nice sparkly rock

Luke Brooks 20/Mar/12 2nd
with John Orr
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Richard Kemble 19/Nov/11 2nd β
with Gwen
Hidden 10/Nov/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 23/Aug/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 23/Aug/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 09/Aug/11 2nd O/S
belay bunny turned bad 09/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with loundsy
Jack00 30/Jul/11 AltLd O/S

'Led' top scrambly bit.

with Anna
Hidden 30/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Owain Llewelyn 20/Jul/11 Lead
with Dad
Hidden 09/Jul/11 2nd
Hidden 09/Jul/11 Lead O/S
givemetea 07/Jul/11 2nd O/S
dan gibson 07/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with roslyn mckendry
emma Warren 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with matt stygall
khawk 26/Jun/11 Lead O/S
with DT
tebs 05/Jun/11 2nd O/S

E2 in the guide - seemed really hard for the grade - a great lead from Jon.

with Jon
Dave Foster 30/May/11 2nd O/S

Cracking technical climbing with a bold feel. Solid lead by Si.

with Si 2
Hidden 30/May/11 Lead O/S
victim of mathematics 20/May/11 2nd β

Great! Didn't feel like 6a, but still hard.

soph 20/May/11 Lead O/S
Luke Brooks 11/May/11 2nd
with Perttu, Glyn Hudson
Glyn 11/May/11 2nd O/S
with Luke
ksjs 09/May/11 Lead dnf

Not cool on this: 1 or 2 draws left near top when I would have liked 3 or 4, not entirely happy with gear and got annoyed when I found myself rushing something I wouldn't normally rush for fear of being seen to climb too slow. I really don't think this would feel wrong at E3 at all, it's quite sustained, the crux is tricky and the gear low down is nothing to get excited about.

with Paul S
ksjs 09/May/11 2nd rpt
with Paul S
Martin Haworth 02/May/11 Lead O/S

Really pleased to get this on-sight. Bold first section then technical crux at top with good gear.

mynyddresident 20/Apr/11 Lead β

No need to toss for the lead today, finally. ROooockovers..

with dean
wolf.leeb 10/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with kelly, nic
mynyddresident 10/Apr/11 2nd rpt
with wolf, Kelly
barni 16/Mar/11 2nd rpt
with luke
Luke Brooks 16/Mar/11 Lead O/S
with Barni
Hidden 18/Feb/11 Lead O/S
Dave Turnbull, BMC 12/Feb/11 Lead
with Neil Foster
Hidden 12/Feb/11 2nd rpt
Rory Shaw ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
centurion05 ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden 29/Aug/10 Lead
Hidden 29/Aug/10 2nd rpt
david morse 28/Jun/10 Lead O/S

lower section felt like boldish E2 5b, gear felt hard to place, the top crack can be loaded with kit, bring plenty of draws and small wires. 2 star route

with lole
akhughes 24/Jun/10 Lead
with Jonnie Stocking
Hidden 12/May/10 Lead dog
Hidden 09/May/10 2nd
RachelP 09/May/10 2nd
phil64 ?/May/10 AltLd rpt
Toby Dunn 24/Apr/10 Lead O/S
with Andy Reeve
barni 13/Apr/10 2nd rpt
with long jon
soph ??/2010 Lead
soph ??/2010 Lead
Carly 13/Oct/09 2nd O/S
with Richard
Hidden 13/Oct/09 Lead O/S
Alex Mason 30/Sep/09 Lead O/S

Hard for E2, really fun moves, and i thought scary low down but i think i miss a load of gear.

with matt burdekin
Hidden 30/Sep/09 2nd
Hidden 20/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Bristoldave 24/May/09 Lead O/S
Dave Rumney 24/May/09 Lead
with Sean Roberts
maybe_si 26/Apr/09 2nd O/S
with jez
centurion05 11/Apr/09 Lead O/S
Jez ?/Apr/09 Lead O/S
barni 26/Sep/08 Lead O/S
with Northern
thompson1000 26/Sep/08 2nd
gregoritos 21/Sep/08 Lead O/S
with aussie steve
Hidden 13/Sep/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Jul/08 AltLd O/S
cornishben 02/Jul/08 2nd O/S
with Mike Raine
middlevern 28/Jun/08 Lead O/S
galpinos 28/Jun/08 2nd

Clean. Pretty thin climbing

with Nick V
Hidden 19/May/08 AltLd rpt
Hidden ?/May/08 Lead O/S
ksjs 22/Apr/08 2nd O/S

great climbing, felt technical through the crux

with sarah
feilx 05/Apr/08 Lead O/S
Al Evans ??/2008 -
Matt Vigg ??/2008 -
Hidden 27/Aug/07 2nd rpt
Mark Riley 25/Aug/07 Lead O/S

E2 in the guides, felt tough for that or is that just my lack of trad???

pauldrew 17/Jun/07 Lead
with Crag Jones
mux ??/2007 -
shoulders 02/Aug/06 Lead
Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing ?/Apr/06 Lead O/S

Pro isn't quite what you expect for E2 6a

Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
Hidden 09/Oct/05 Lead dog
WB 30/May/05 Lead O/S
with Guy
nicholas Barrowclough 22/May/05 Lead
ritchierich 20/Apr/05 Lead dnf

This was my 3rd day of trad climbing,Ritchie was going to lead this but backed off it about a 1/3 the way up,so I had a go and managed 2/3 of the route,more practice needed.

with Ritchie Griffiths
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe ??/2005 -
Hidden 15/Aug/04 Lead O/S
frost ?/May/03 2nd
with D Garry
VPJB ??/2003 -
NeilGriffiths 13/Sep/02 Lead
with James Hubbard
nickdonohue ?/Jul/02 2nd
with Joe Brown
Steve Crowe 05/May/02 2nd O/S
with KM
Hidden 04/May/02 Lead O/S
Dave Musgrove Jnr ?/May/02 2nd rpt
with Viv
Hidden 26/Aug/01 Lead O/S
sadams 29/May/00 Lead
with Tom Briggs
whispering nic ??/2000 -
Tim M ??/2000 AltLd O/S
zero six ??/2000 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/99 Lead O/S
nige ?/Jun/99 2nd
with mark hounslea
michael burrows 05/May/96 2nd
with steve ward
alkira ??/1996 -
Derek Ryden ??/1996 Lead O/S
with Helen Hooper
Rich Kirby 15/Apr/95 Lead O/S
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe 15/Apr/95 2nd
Bullybones ??/1995 -
Hidden ?/Aug/94 Lead
michael burrows 08/May/94 Lead O/S
with lola gunn
D Tempest 01/May/94 2nd
with Rick
Hidden ??/1994 -
mark-abz 22/Aug/93 Lead O/S
with Simon K
Hidden 08/Aug/93 2nd
The Pulsing Motorik of Neu! 10/Apr/93 2nd
with James Turner
steve taylor ??/1993 -
Roget 31/May/92 Lead O/S
with jon
pete johnson 21/Apr/92 Lead
pete johnson 21/Apr/92 Lead O/S
with Richard Yorke
Hidden 24/Aug/91 2nd
Andy Edgar ??/1991 Lead O/S

Must have been going well, remember it as not being too hard when I did it

with Hugh Woodland
Hidden 20/May/90 Lead
uphillnow 24/Apr/90 2nd

Then I led Strand

with john Aylewood
Nick Biven 01/Apr/90 Lead
with Ray Jenkins
Hidden ??/1990 Lead
Seymore Butt ??/1990 Lead
with Spuz
andy gittins ??/1990 Lead
Hidden ??/1988 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/1988 Lead O/S
Eduardo Martinez 08/Aug/87 Lead O/S
PaulTanton ?/Aug/87 Lead O/S
Dave Musgrove 17/Aug/86 -
with Kim Greenald
keefe 05/Jul/86 -
with Johnny Adams
Neil R 21/Jun/86 2nd

One rest

with Mark
jcw ?/Jun/85 -
with Mike Dawes
neilh 28/May/85 Lead O/S
with dave croker
Hidden 18/May/85 -
Hidden ??/1985 Lead
GuyM ??/1985 -
andy gittins ??/1985 -
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ??/1985 2nd
with Brendan Mcghee
Mike Owen 05/Jun/83 Lead O/S
with Roger Bennion
Neil McA 26/May/82 2nd O/S
with Steve Andrews
Ian Jones ??/1982 AltLd O/S
with Dave Greenald, Billy Jones, Chris Gore, Tom Jones, Paul Stott, 'Flog'
mikej 23/Sep/81 AltLd dnf
with Mike Byles
Hidden 23/Mar/81 AltLd
Hidden 23/Aug/80 Lead
Mark Kemball 27/Jun/80 Lead
with Wawa
duncan ?/Apr/80 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/Aug/79 Lead
Al Evans 23/Jul/78 Lead
with Ben Winteringham,Geoff Milburn, Jim Moran
Paul Clarke ??/1971 AltLd
with Andy Dunhill, FMC
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