22m.

Rockfax Description
A steep lower wall gives some hard technical climbing. Start at a left-leading slab. Take the slab to below a crack-line which bends to the right. Climb this with some tough pulls to join and finish up Scabby Horse. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Awarded E1 5b in new guide, previously HVS 5a.
A notoriously strenuous and awkward route, especially when graded HVS.
Walk along the leftwards rising slab to its far end. Climb the steep crack to the downward pointing bulge that blocks progress. Teeter rightwards around the bulge into a scoop and then ascend to join Scabby Horse. Finish as for Scabby Horse.

B Rogers, W Day 1976

Feedback

UserDateNotes
foostu4 23 Apr Show βeta
βeta: Hvs.... Yeah right!
βeta?
Show beta
βeta: Hvs.... Yeah right!
Login as Existing User to add your feedback

Logged Ascents

User Date Style Notes & Partners
Hidden 17 Sep 2nd
Paul Figg 8 Sep Lead rpt
with Rachel Antill
with Rachel Antill
C coldwell-storry 13 Jul Solo O/S
with Jake Rogers, rob lay
with Jake Rogers, rob lay
treesrockice 11 Jul Lead O/S Evening hit, amazing crag and great route. E1 probably fair.
Evening hit, amazing crag and great route. E1 probably fair.
LancsSteve 11 Jul 2nd
with Bede west
with Bede west
stephm 6 Jul 2nd
with Pete
with Pete
Mike Todd 23 Jun Lead O/S
with Martin Smith
with Martin Smith
joe.91 18 Jun Lead O/S
with K Mckay
with K Mckay
K Mckay 18 Jun 2nd rpt
with joe.91
with joe.91
Shaw Brown 12 May 2nd
with Dan Kelly
with Dan Kelly
Hidden 12 May Lead O/S
foostu4 23 Apr Lead O/S
JRJG 7 Apr Lead O/S
with Matt
with Matt
Flavio 23 Sep, 2018 Lead O/S
JendeHoxar 23 Sep, 2018 2nd O/S
with Flavio
with Flavio
John Kelly 1 Sep, 2018 2nd
with john hempston
with john hempston
Anti-faff 1 Sep, 2018 2nd
with Mike Fenwick, El Presidente
with Mike Fenwick, El Presidente
Small and weak 1 Sep, 2018 Lead
Robbie Blease 23 Aug, 2018 2nd O/S
Nath8 22 Jul, 2018 Lead β
Mike_d78 14 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S
with Sted
with Sted
clams ?Jul, 2018 Lead
with CatMc
with CatMc
Aaron Duke 26 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S
chris smith 26 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
kellyb (velvet.mustard) 12 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S
K Mckay 11 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
with Fraser Scott
with Fraser Scott
duncana 3 Jun, 2018 2nd After a slightly greasy and midgy start on Truss Buttress I was quite apprehensive about this, but really nice climbing on first half, easy in the middle, then quite a reach (hard for the short leader!) to get through the top section.
with Pippa Archer
After a slightly greasy and midgy start on Truss Buttress I was quite apprehensive about this, but really nice climbing on first half, easy in the middle, then quite a reach (hard for the short leader!) to get through the top section.
with Pippa Archer
David Cowley ?Jun, 2018 2nd
Bethan May Davies 27 May, 2018 2nd
john lynch 27 May, 2018 Lead O/S Great
Great
Rob Rocket 18 May, 2018 2nd
Ben_Gilbert96 7 May, 2018 Lead dog
suddy 7 May, 2018 Lead O/S
with Justina Ivanova, mikespooner
with Justina Ivanova, mikespooner
Robrossmills 7 May, 2018 2nd O/S
mikespooner 7 May, 2018 2nd O/S
with suddy
with suddy
Paul Figg 6 May, 2018 Lead rpt
with Rachel Antill
with Rachel Antill
John Kettle 5 May, 2018 Lead rpt coaching
coaching
K Farrell 5 May, 2018 Lead β On Dave’s gear
On Dave’s gear
Dave Warburton 5 May, 2018 Lead O/S E1 5b
E1 5b
Hidden 28 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
Nigel Bond 26 Aug, 2017 2nd
with Jeremy Morris
with Jeremy Morris
Chris Reid 23 Aug, 2017 2nd
with Julian Simmons
with Julian Simmons
Simonfarfaraway 29 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S Great route - E1 5b seems fair.
Great route - E1 5b seems fair.
Little B 29 Jul, 2017 2nd O/S E1 5b in book. agree with that grade.
E1 5b in book. agree with that grade.
1poundSOCKS 9 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S A wobbly hold on the balancy crux. Don't pull too hard.
A wobbly hold on the balancy crux. Don't pull too hard.
Hidden 18 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
Hidden 18 Jun, 2017 2nd
steely 4 Jun, 2017 Lead O/S
with luke armitage
with luke armitage
Paul Figg 3 Jun, 2017 2nd rpt
with Rachel Antill
with Rachel Antill
Dominic Acland 22 Apr, 2017 Lead O/S
with Alastair
with Alastair
Mike_Hayes 12 Sep, 2016 Lead
with Liam
with Liam
Joshcastril 30 Jul, 2016 Lead O/S
with Georgia
with Georgia
J_Spooner ?Jul, 2016 Lead O/S
with Vish Patel, Francis Charlesworth
with Vish Patel, Francis Charlesworth
ferdia 18 Jun, 2016 2nd
Andy Moles 18 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
with ferdia
with ferdia
peter.clarkson1 5 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
with ian chad
with ian chad
lukegorman 30 May, 2016 2nd O/S
Wendy Watthews 30 May, 2016 Lead O/S A bit of faff convincing myself to lead off of the pillar was followed by a brilliant route with easy enough but strenuous and committing move arround the bulge. Would agree most with the e1 grade in the guidebook.
A bit of faff convincing myself to lead off of the pillar was followed by a brilliant route with easy enough but strenuous and committing move arround the bulge. Would agree most with the e1 grade in the guidebook.
JoeCoxson 30 May, 2016 2nd O/S Good moves up to the bulge, awkward around it, and a nice finish up the VS.
Good moves up to the bulge, awkward around it, and a nice finish up the VS.
Paul Figg 29 May, 2016 2nd
with Rachel Antill
with Rachel Antill
Hidden 21 Mar, 2016 2nd O/S
Hidden 21 Mar, 2016 Lead O/S
tmawer 11 Oct, 2015 2nd rpt With the first 30 feet of Times of Stress.
with Dan (Mike's mate), Mike Norbery
With the first 30 feet of Times of Stress.
with Dan (Mike's mate), Mike Norbery
Hidden 7 Aug, 2015 2nd
r_o_b_h2 20 Jun, 2015 2nd O/S
with Nik Goile
with Nik Goile
Hidden 20 Jun, 2015 Lead O/S
klipkabouter 8 Jun, 2015 -
with james Jim, Graham Beatie
with james Jim, Graham Beatie
jamesyoull 8 Jun, 2015 2nd
tsl42 23 May, 2015 Lead dog
with Mark Challoner
with Mark Challoner
James_Kendal 20 May, 2015 2nd O/S
SophieMartin 20 May, 2015 2nd
gav 20 May, 2015 Lead dog All about 1 or 2 moves. Up the slab to start, fiddled a few bits of gear in with a bit of up-and-down then moved up to the flake. On the main step right, pulled on a loose flake handhold which decided it was bored of being attached to the crag and dumped me onto my ropes. Pulling back on, the move was harder but still do-able. Awkward and off-balance. Rest is staightforward.
with Cath Sullivan, GPN
All about 1 or 2 moves. Up the slab to start, fiddled a few bits of gear in with a bit of up-and-down then moved up to the flake. On the main step right, pulled on a loose flake handhold which decided it was bored of being attached to the crag and dumped me onto my ropes. Pulling back on, the move was harder but still do-able. Awkward and off-balance. Rest is staightforward.
with Cath Sullivan, GPN
cem 4 May, 2015 2nd rpt Cold!
with Kirill
Cold!
with Kirill
Kirill 4 May, 2015 Lead O/S
with cem
with cem
joe_lancs 9 Aug, 2014 Lead O/S
Peter Metcalfe 9 Aug, 2014 AltLd I tried the lead but couldn't do the crux so lowered off. Giles got the lead and belayed at junction with Scabby Horse.
with Giles Brown
I tried the lead but couldn't do the crux so lowered off. Giles got the lead and belayed at junction with Scabby Horse.
with Giles Brown
Hidden 25 Jul, 2014 Lead
Teappleby 6 Jul, 2014 2nd
Calum Wadsworth 6 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
Matthew Ferrier 6 Jul, 2014 2nd
with amccann
with amccann
amccann 6 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
AmyG 17 May, 2014 2nd O/S
with suzana, uistboy
with suzana, uistboy
Hidden 17 May, 2014 Lead
Hidden 17 May, 2014 Lead O/S
Hidden 21 Apr, 2014 2nd O/S
Martin Bagshaw 21 Apr, 2014 Lead O/S
with Neil Passmore
with Neil Passmore
chubbyclimber 21 Apr, 2014 2nd
ipegg 21 Apr, 2014 Lead
Hidden 21 Apr, 2014 2nd O/S
petegunn 14 Mar, 2014 2nd The wind drops!
The wind drops!
owain-1978 14 Mar, 2014 Lead O/S
Hidden 14 Mar, 2014 Lead
tjmillen ??, 2014 Lead
Hidden 21 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 14 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 5 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 5 Sep, 2013 Lead O/S
Tom.Priestley 27 Jul, 2013 2nd Definatly E1, Good gear but hard to get it in (or out!)
Definatly E1, Good gear but hard to get it in (or out!)
Scott Quinn 27 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S I'd agree with the new grade of e1 b, very insecure moves very fiddly small gear to start
I'd agree with the new grade of e1 b, very insecure moves very fiddly small gear to start
Hidden 19 Jul, 2013 Lead rpt
Fran Sgr 13 Jul, 2013 2nd O/S
with stu
with stu
stuart34 13 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Hidden 7 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Nick Clement 29 Jun, 2013 2nd
with Rachel Antill, Paul Figg
with Rachel Antill, Paul Figg
Paul Figg 29 Jun, 2013 2nd
with Rachel Antill, Nick Clement
with Rachel Antill, Nick Clement
steve gould 24 Jun, 2013 2nd
with cem
with cem
cem 24 Jun, 2013 Lead O/S The E1 5b it gets in the current guide is perhaps a bit over the top but it's not a pushover at HVS 5a
The E1 5b it gets in the current guide is perhaps a bit over the top but it's not a pushover at HVS 5a
petegunn 20 Jun, 2013 Lead
Hidden 20 Jun, 2013 2nd O/S
Danny Crump 2 Jun, 2013 Lead
with LiL Saz
with LiL Saz
tmawer 26 May, 2013 Lead rpt
with Jaime Robertson
with Jaime Robertson
Hidden 26 May, 2013 Lead β
hotrod 3 Mar, 2013 Lead backed off not to sure which way around downward bulge
with vera
backed off not to sure which way around downward bulge
with vera
ewen 26 Oct, 2012 Lead
with soupy
with soupy
tomhull 7 Oct, 2012 2nd rpt
with Dom Bush
with Dom Bush
theotherpetehill 15 Sep, 2012 2nd
with Caroline Culwick, chrisallan
with Caroline Culwick, chrisallan
chrisallan 15 Sep, 2012 2nd O/S
Hidden 15 Sep, 2012 Lead O/S
robertmichaellovell 2 Sep, 2012 2nd
with Louise H
with Louise H
Hidden 12 Aug, 2012 Lead
Hidden 12 Aug, 2012 2nd
Hidden 11 Aug, 2012 Lead
Guy Bennell ?Aug, 2012 2nd
sishaw 15 Jul, 2012 2nd
Woodiee 15 Jul, 2012 -
with sam webb
with sam webb
kato'sdad 12 Jun, 2012 Lead
with KMC
with KMC
Lakesben 5 Jun, 2012 Lead O/S
KristopherHall 4 Jun, 2012 Lead O/S If it is E1 its my first
If it is E1 its my first
Em66 3 Jun, 2012 2nd
with Si Wooley, Freg1
with Si Wooley, Freg1
Hidden ?Jun, 2012 Lead
Climbster 26 May, 2012 2nd β
Goose4 13 May, 2012 Lead O/S
with Tim Hunt
with Tim Hunt
Hidden 6 May, 2012 2nd
staceyjg 7 Apr, 2012 2nd O/S we had the old book that said HVS 5a, I would definitely agree that it's 5b rather than 5a, but not sure it's quite E1
we had the old book that said HVS 5a, I would definitely agree that it's 5b rather than 5a, but not sure it's quite E1
minaturechris 7 Apr, 2012 Lead O/S
iwebster59017 22 Mar, 2012 Lead
nicolat ??, 2012 -
Hidden 26 Oct, 2011 Lead
Hidden 24 Oct, 2011 2nd
gb05 24 Oct, 2011 Lead O/S
Hidden 2 Oct, 2011 Lead
Hidden 2 Oct, 2011 2nd
AlexRenshaw 25 Sep, 2011 2nd
with Thomas Renshaw
with Thomas Renshaw
Liam Ingram 14 Sep, 2011 2nd O/S Thought the crux was at the top. Its not quite worth E1.
with blouise
Thought the crux was at the top. Its not quite worth E1.
with blouise
Sam Parker 31 Aug, 2011 2nd
with Dad
with Dad
Arty 28 Aug, 2011 2nd
with Neil
with Neil
Olli-C 28 Aug, 2011 Lead rpt Finally, first route i ever failed on, glad ive done it now, still found it hard
Finally, first route i ever failed on, glad ive done it now, still found it hard
Rachel Slater 28 Aug, 2011 2nd O/S
with Olli-C
with Olli-C
Hidden 22 Aug, 2011 2nd rpt
mcglenr25 22 Aug, 2011 Lead O/S E1 5B in the new Eastern Crags Guidebook. Nearly fell off this one! Steep, balancy and comitting but a very good route.
E1 5B in the new Eastern Crags Guidebook. Nearly fell off this one! Steep, balancy and comitting but a very good route.
Hidden 5 Aug, 2011 Lead
beds74 31 Jul, 2011 Lead Craig fell on crux
with Craig Hartley, J1PEF
Craig fell on crux
with Craig Hartley, J1PEF
J1PEF 31 Jul, 2011 2nd
with beds74
with beds74
nakedave 16 Jul, 2011 Lead
Hidden 3 Jul, 2011 Lead RP
DavidEvans 2 Jul, 2011 2nd O/S
with John Helme
with John Helme
Hidden 26 Jun, 2011 2nd
brockers 26 Jun, 2011 Lead way harder than the HVS grade it gets in the ''Lake District Rock'' book. The move round the bulge is -really- strenuous!
way harder than the HVS grade it gets in the ''Lake District Rock'' book. The move round the bulge is -really- strenuous!
mikemontain 16 Jun, 2011 2nd
with alison williams
with alison williams
Conan 31 May, 2011 2nd E1 5b in the new guidebook
with Neil
E1 5b in the new guidebook
with Neil
DaveAtkinson 25 May, 2011 2nd Failed to lead the very strenuous but well protected move round bulge.
with P.Cannon
Failed to lead the very strenuous but well protected move round bulge.
with P.Cannon
Daniels735 19 May, 2011 2nd O/S
with Matt Foot
with Matt Foot
Route Adjuster 30 Apr, 2011 2nd O/S with Pete Britt.
with Pete Britt.
Justin Tracey 29 Apr, 2011 2nd As hard as I rembmer it last time!
with Steve Hall
As hard as I rembmer it last time!
with Steve Hall
Glenn Sutcliffe 29 Apr, 2011 -
with Nick Wharton
with Nick Wharton
Hidden 25 Apr, 2011 2nd O/S
Ben Harper 25 Apr, 2011 Lead O/S
with James39
with James39
Pete Rigby ?Apr, 2011 Lead
with Jim Tan
with Jim Tan
Hidden 27 Mar, 2011 Lead rpt
Mr G 25 Mar, 2011 Lead O/S
with bri
with bri
Dan0Me 1 Mar, 2011 Lead O/S
with Josh C
with Josh C
Danny Bags ??, 2011 -
Olli-C 6 Sep, 2010 2nd Felt easier this time, but didnt have to place gear or sus out the moves.
Felt easier this time, but didnt have to place gear or sus out the moves.
tom106 18 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
with tom green
with tom green
rockrat 3 Aug, 2010 Lead rpt
with Luke Jones
with Luke Jones
rockrat 1 Aug, 2010 2nd β
with Luke Armitage
with Luke Armitage
Olli-C 5 Jul, 2010 Lead dnf Failed at the bulge, got super pumped went to high and lowered off. Oli tried to lead and fell 3 times before lowering off. way harder than the other HVS's ive done couldnt work out the move at all.
with pete mcfee, oli-explosion
Failed at the bulge, got super pumped went to high and lowered off. Oli tried to lead and fell 3 times before lowering off. way harder than the other HVS's ive done couldnt work out the move at all.
with pete mcfee, oli-explosion
Ken Taylor 25 May, 2010 Lead O/S
with Chris Michalak
with Chris Michalak
Conan 25 May, 2010 Lead O/S Got super pumped on that one!
with Rick Gordon
Got super pumped on that one!
with Rick Gordon
Sue Underwood 15 May, 2010 2nd
Chad123 25 Apr, 2010 AltLd O/S E1 5b surely? These Lakes grades are a bit mean! Worth a star or two for some nice moves, awkward bulge the way I did it, think you are supposed to traverse below it....
with Emily
E1 5b surely? These Lakes grades are a bit mean! Worth a star or two for some nice moves, awkward bulge the way I did it, think you are supposed to traverse below it....
with Emily
Hidden 22 Apr, 2010 Lead
Fenwick ?Apr, 2010 -
Fenwick ??, 2010 -
Hidden ?Oct, 2009 2nd dog
Neil McA 27 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S
with Chris Vanderhoven
with Chris Vanderhoven
PeteH 27 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S Loose in places...
Loose in places...
NaomiHart 27 Sep, 2009 2nd O/S
with PeteH
with PeteH
Hidden 20 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S
joehanks61 20 Sep, 2009 Lead O/S
with Max
with Max
Ross Davidson 27 Aug, 2009 Lead O/S
Hidden 5 Aug, 2009 Lead dnf
net 5 Jul, 2009 2nd
with GPN
with GPN
GPN 5 Jul, 2009 Lead O/S E1 5b might be a bit closer to the mark!
with net
E1 5b might be a bit closer to the mark!
with net
martrin 14 Jun, 2009 Lead
with Sarah Kekus
with Sarah Kekus
Skinny Kin 24 May, 2009 Lead O/S Almost came off at the bulge but got myself together. It seemed very hard for 5a; maybe I climbed too high up before traversing the bulge.
with Andy Matthews
Almost came off at the bulge but got myself together. It seemed very hard for 5a; maybe I climbed too high up before traversing the bulge.
with Andy Matthews
Shaw Brown 12 May, 2009 Lead
with Philippa
with Philippa
tomhull 24 Apr, 2009 Lead
with matt harris
with matt harris
John Postlethwaite 16 Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
with liam
with liam
Hidden ??, 2009 Lead O/S
JDSwain 23 Aug, 2008 Lead O/S Good value for the grade, technical and sequency
with Tom Ripley
Good value for the grade, technical and sequency
with Tom Ripley
Andrew1 1 Jul, 2008 Lead
with Ros
with Ros
Hidden 28 Jun, 2008 2nd O/S
climbingpixie 28 Jun, 2008 Lead O/S
with Andy Hobson
with Andy Hobson
metal arms 24 May, 2008 Lead O/S
penrithblencathra 20 Feb, 2008 Lead
with Simon Hills
with Simon Hills
swmackey ?Feb, 2008 Lead
with Annie Kirkwood
with Annie Kirkwood
Hidden 23 Jun, 2007 Lead O/S
chris m fisher 29 Apr, 2007 2nd
with Jake
with Jake
Whitt 29 Apr, 2007 Lead dog Sod it! Had to rest on gear!
with Ed
Sod it! Had to rest on gear!
with Ed
Hidden 29 Apr, 2007 Lead
Mike H 29 Apr, 2007 2nd
with Jamie Smith
with Jamie Smith
Hidden 29 Apr, 2007 2nd dog
Greylag ??, 2007 2nd
Greylag ??, 2007 -
Hidden 13 Jun, 2006 -
Shaw Brown 25 May, 2006 Lead
with Mary Grace
with Mary Grace
ewen ??, 2006 -
Hidden ?Aug, 2005 2nd
smollett ?Mar, 2005 Lead O/S
with yarbles
with yarbles
John Kettle ??, 2005 Lead
Hidden 20 May, 2004 2nd
DaveHK 1 May, 2004 Lead
with Jill Kerr
with Jill Kerr
Shaw Brown ?May, 2004 Lead
with evmc
with evmc
p.crooky#1 ??, 2004 2nd
with Macy
with Macy
petegunn 6 Dec, 2003 Lead
with Aled
with Aled
Roget 17 Aug, 2000 Lead O/S
alpinismo.uk ??, 2000 Lead
Hidden 28 Aug, 1999 Lead
clive-greenwood 30 Jul, 1999 Lead O/S
with Laura
with Laura
Mick King 1 Aug, 1998 Lead O/S
with Tony Madden
with Tony Madden
D Tempest 13 Jul, 1997 Lead
with Rick
with Rick
Trobbo 7 Jul, 1996 Lead
with john blower
with john blower
Hammy 10 Jul, 1983 2nd
with Bounders
with Bounders
7 users have this on their wishlist
Voting
High E2
Mid E2
Low E2
High E1
Mid E1
Low E1
High HVS
Mid HVS
Low HVS
Votes cast 57
High 5c
Mid 5c
Low 5c
High 5b
Mid 5b
Low 5b
High 5a
Mid 5a
Low 5a
Votes cast 54
Votes cast 46
Style of Ascent
Lead
Followed
Alt Leads
Soloed
Not Set
Onsighted
Repeated
Dogged
Flashed (β)
DNF
Redpoint
Not Set