UKC

25m.

Rockfax Description
The fine central line is now getting a bit worn but is still brilliant. The wider section of crack at two-thirds height is most problematic. Excellent climbing and usually occupied. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Long, sustained and polished 4c, upgraded to HVS, 4c for an onsight attempt. Comment if this is wrong!

FA. Alan Evans, John Horsfall 1973. Jean Jeanie and Aladdinsane start the ball rolling on the crack systems opened up on the Main Wall, as well as initiating the ?Bowie? theme for route names..

Ticklists

The 100 Best UK VS routes? , Classic Rock Climbs of Great Britain by Bill Birkett , Lancashire's Finest , 100 best limestone climbs in Britain , World Graded List , Do you climb VS? , Silverdale and Arnside AONB VS Challenge , A Lakeland Apprenticeship , Turbo-Punter's Tradification , Dan’s Delights , Dewimpification , Top 10 trowbarrow routes vs-E3 , The Silverdale Crag Challenge , Matt's Bucketlist , Northern Cracks , UMC ticklist for the turbo punter (Trad)

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cem 6 Aug Show βeta
βeta: VS 4c.
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βeta: VS 4c.
C Rettiw 29 Apr Show βeta
βeta: Re: grade debate. It's VS 4c. There are no 5a moves. It is intimidating and sustained, but there are plenty of rests and, if you jam, it's never pumpy. You can lean in all the way. Gear is a bit fiddly, but nothing larger than a green cam is obligatory and there are many threads. A big blue cam may steady the nerves toward the top. Although an upgrade is tempting, so that we can all feel better about ourselves, but this would require an upgrade of Harijan, Hollow Earth and a good bit of the Wye Valley, too. Best not to give JJ a confusing grade like "HVS 4c", but for it to continue as a "tough VS".
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βeta: Re: grade debate. It's VS 4c. There are no 5a moves. It is intimidating and sustained, but there are plenty of rests and, if you jam, it's never pumpy. You can lean in all the way. Gear is a bit fiddly, but nothing larger than a green cam is obligatory and there are many threads. A big blue cam may steady the nerves toward the top. Although an upgrade is tempting, so that we can all feel better about ourselves, but this would require an upgrade of Harijan, Hollow Earth and a good bit of the Wye Valley, too. Best not to give JJ a confusing grade like "HVS 4c", but for it to continue as a "tough VS".
sparkybatteryboy 25 May, 2024 Show βeta
βeta: Great route. Loose blocks just before top. Something nesting in the depths of the cracks at quarter height
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βeta: Great route. Loose blocks just before top. Something nesting in the depths of the cracks at quarter height
MattFleming 26 Jan, 2024 Show βeta
βeta: Fab again. In trainers
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βeta: Fab again. In trainers
nalgene_enjoyer 27 May, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: Many rocks still loose over the last 5m
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βeta: Many rocks still loose over the last 5m
mountainremedy 13 May, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: 13.5.23 Jackdaws nesting where the crack widens
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βeta: 13.5.23 Jackdaws nesting where the crack widens
Jaco1878 9 Sep, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Highly polished. Very sustained brilliant jamming all the way up. Wider part of the crack is most problematic but still very enjoyable!
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βeta: Highly polished. Very sustained brilliant jamming all the way up. Wider part of the crack is most problematic but still very enjoyable!
MattRose22 1 Jul, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Top is very loose
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βeta: Top is very loose
BertieP42 27 Sep, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Getting very wobbly at the top
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βeta: Getting very wobbly at the top
mattdarli92 7 Jul, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Found gear tricky to place due to cracks widening at the back. If I hadn't seen the grade before hand would have thought HVS 5a... If it is only 4c then you better believe it's 4c from the eyebrows down!
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βeta: Found gear tricky to place due to cracks widening at the back. If I hadn't seen the grade before hand would have thought HVS 5a... If it is only 4c then you better believe it's 4c from the eyebrows down!
Jackspratt 25 Aug, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Brilliant route, probably my personal favourite after some reflection, great moves throughout and a real experience in learning to rest and conserve energy.
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βeta: Brilliant route, probably my personal favourite after some reflection, great moves throughout and a real experience in learning to rest and conserve energy.
SBurrow 6 Jun, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Loose blocks near top out / belay
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βeta: Loose blocks near top out / belay
wilkie14c 22 Nov, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Loz and I climbed this in November, top half of the crack was seeping badly and never really felt secure, good gear but big cams and hex's needed, hard 4c climbing but felt much more than VS due to the steepness. So polished that the only footholds were inside the crack - no friction on the face at all, might be differnt come summer though. Has the crack got wider? I don't know but I have a sneaky feeling that many a chock stone from the crack has now long gone making it harder.... If i led it without knowing the grade i would have maybe put it at HVS 4C+ or 5A. hated it and loved it! A classic classic!
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βeta: Loz and I climbed this in November, top half of the crack was seeping badly and never really felt secure, good gear but big cams and hex's needed, hard 4c climbing but felt much more than VS due to the steepness. So polished that the only footholds were inside the crack - no friction on the face at all, might be differnt come summer though. Has the crack got wider? I don't know but I have a sneaky feeling that many a chock stone from the crack has now long gone making it harder.... If i led it without knowing the grade i would have maybe put it at HVS 4C+ or 5A. hated it and loved it! A classic classic!

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High E1
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Low E1
High HVS
Mid HVS
Low HVS
High VS
Mid VS
Low VS
High HS
Mid HS
Low HS
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High 5a
Mid 5a
Low 5a
High 4c
Mid 4c
Low 4c
High 4b
Mid 4b
Low 4b
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Style of Ascent
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Route of Interest
Spellbound

Grade: HVS 5b ***
(Witches' Quarry)

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