Go Ken! The Barnet is back!, etc His DWS of this route is quite ballsy - as you can see from the photos if you blow the crux you (just) miss a big ole rock. I'm not sure if you'd hit this or not if you fell of the bottom section (which is pretty hard). The 8c is ridiculously sustained, and yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a tad harder, after all it does link almost all of an 8b+, into reversing the crux of an 8a+, after which you do most of another (hard) 8a+ to gain the (hard) 7c finishing headwall. Phew! I'm certain it will take a long while to get repeated, as the line is perhaps a bit convoluted to tempt luminaries like Steve Mac down again, and both Rob and I have our eyes on other things for the time being...having said that, someone like Liam Halsey or Rich Simpson might pop over and sneak it in! On a further note - is "E10 Ken" the coolest hard climber in Britain? The guy's a legend. He's so timid he was headpointing the 7c+s at Ceuse, yet he's soloed 8a, climbed E10 and repeated nearly all of the hardest trad routes in the SW! bizarre!