Thanks as well. Will you be adding this to the BMC access database, as this is what I normally base my access queries on, and for Bamford none of the above info is there.

Very well put. Could the BMC run to a couple of notices (if it hasn't already done so) attached to the 'traditional' access points directing people up the road ?

Sorry - should have said "not all the info" is there. :-) S.

I'm puzzled by this sudden increase in traffic. I've climbed at Bamford a number of times in the past - you just had to ring up beforehand (like eg. Brandrith in Yorkshire). I was never refused access. Admittedly last time I was there was probably 5 years ago - am I out of date? Has there in fact been a substantial access problem over the last few years? Or are all of the excited new Bamford devotees unable to use a telephone? It's pretty amazing if that "barrier" was enough to keep it so quiet all those years - seems like a good idea for a number of other places! It's a nice enough crag, I hope the "craze" passes and the landowner doesn't get chance to become really fed up with us climbers...