Well done chaps ! as a closet twitcher and lover of gogarth, I will look forward to viewing those images. We forget sometimes how lucky we are to get so close to these birds whilst climbing. I have met people that travel the length and breadth of the country to get half the view we get whilst sitting on a stance wishing your partner would hurry the hell up! On a separate note though …..was that a drill I saw ……..at gogarth !! surely not

I'm really not sure about this (which actually means that I'm suppressing the urge to vent a rantastic tirade of abuse in the direction of RSPB). Yes, that is a drill (explanation required for starters). The "successful voluntary access agreement" with the RSPB has always felt one-way. I've endured quite unreasonable behaviour from their wardens on this site for over 20 years yet their sense of "conservation" seems to fly out of the door (whoops, no pun intended) when they want to 'improve' the facilities. It would be premature to suspect that they have Disney-style Birdworld plans afoot but these actions really aren't necessary on conservation grounds. Surely? How exactly, for instance, is this going to protect birds? I mean - watching birds on a TV screen in Ellin's Tower! Can't they just sell some DVDs? Look, see - I'm ranting already! Perhaps somebody from the RSPB would like to offer an objective commentary as to how this came about - presumably the cameras put in place last year were a 'success'? How is that measured? Increased visitor numbers and/or revenue/membership? If not Birdworld, where is this going?

Not quite sure why you're so upset. Many of the visitors to South Stack don't actually know that they're on a nature reserve, and have little active interest in wildlife and the environment. By streaming live video into Elin's Tower people will be able to walk in and see a huge puffin on a screen for the immediate 'wow' factor. Hopefully that will lead them into a conversation about the birds and what else South Stack has to offer, and give visitors a positive experience. Educating people is important, as is the money membership generates from such positive experiences. As far as I'm aware, the staff at South Stack have no qualms with climbers as long as they stick to the access arrangements.

I should also add that I do know what I'm on about; I'm currently an RSPB volunteer, know the staff at South Stack, and was there yesterday for an interview