Joey mentioned in a previous post his annual trips to Spain are educational. Perhaps he meant Edu-cational, cause today he dominated the cave. Edu that is. Marin, if you were wondering. Usual Edu-style he skipped enough clips to keep the crowd entertained, not to say nervous, while making the FA of Ciudad de dios (great film!) which is a direct version of Fabela. Now... about the grade, it's an ~8c+ into an ~8c+, giving something in the 9a/+ region. Those slash grades sure are popular these days ;) Sources: Joey and Edu. Photo: Edu Marin on Ciudad de dios, by Joe Kinder.