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Bad Bolts at Smalldale in The Peak - UPDATEWarning

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Richardh wrote: "Yesterday, climbing at Smalldale on a newish route - Summat Outanowt (7a), two of the lower bolts pulled out with the tension of the rope on lowering off. On examination the glue hadn't gone off, and I hadn't noticed on the way up that it hadn't...I presume the glue had set on the 6th because I sat on it rather than fell on it."

We have had reports of bad bolts at Smalldale Quarry in the Peak District.

See this forum thread

UKC contacted Dan Middleton the Technical Officer at the BMC and the BMC ask that everyone avoids climbing at this quarry until the bolts have been checked. This should happen tomorrow, Tuesday 8 May.


Update Wednesday 9 May

First published by Dan Middleton - BMC Technical Officer on the BMC web site

This is an update on the warning issued recently regarding loose bolts at Smalldale Quarry in the Peak District. A number of routes which may have been affected were checked by the re-equipper, with no problems reported, and the two missing bolts were replaced.

The BMC received an email from the re-equipper, explaining what steps he had taken to check the bolts there:

"I have thoroughly checked all of the following:

Sock it to 'em
Blockheads
Learn the Lingo
Mr Love Pants
Riding the Bullet
Open Season
More Chattery Teeth
Upminster Kid
Friend 15

And the route Summat Outanowt on which the first two bolts pulled has been checked: all the remaining glue in's are fine and extra bolts have been added to replace the two that pulled.

Of interest is that the first batch of routes are almost all well-chalked which emphasises the efforts taken to improve the place.

I did reclimb Summat Outanowt after it was rebolted - 25th March and rebolted 28th December - and abbed down to unclip the gear which did not pull as I did not overtly place any shear stress on them, otherwise I would have had the problem clearly identfied. I can only apologise that this happened.

I will endeavour to cross check every route I regear in the future. Lesson defintely learned!"

This incident highlights the need for climbers and equippers to be careful and diligent when using and placing any fixed gear. Sport climbing has inherent risks which the climber should be aware of - more information on how to spot a suspect bolt, and guidelines for good practice when equipping can be found in the BMC bolt guidance documents.


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7 May, 2012
FFS! That is terrifying, and simply unforgivable. Thank you for posting your warning. Hopefully people will read it and pass the information on before someone gets killed... Unfortunately we have been here before. Did you read my post at the end of this bizarre thread? http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=502128&v=1#x6851793 I am simply astonished that lessons appear not to have been learned, particularly when this very issue has been aired and discussed so recently. It also seems odd to me that this particular route required re-bolting, as it is one of the most recent routes on the Main Wall, having only been put up in 2007. I repeated it shortly afterwards, and the bolts seemed like solid modern through bolts - they weren't glue-ins / staples. Is it really the case that such bolts are reckoned to only have a useful working life of less than 5 years now...? I strongly advise people to stay away from Smalldale until the true state of the fixed gear can be properly assessed, and any that is not fit for purpose be replaced, by someone properly competent to do the job. Neil
7 May, 2012
I hadn't seen that post no, but interesting to read certainly. I suppose my view may echo that of your friend's - should the placer have checked the glue had set - yes, should the climber have checked the bolts were safe before relying on them - yes. Did either party do that in this case, it would seem neither did. Will I habitually waggle glue-ins in the future - I think so ... I guess I feel responsibility lies somewhere between the two, but also agree that if it happens once, one would hope lessons would remain learnt.
8 May, 2012
WTF? It's been rebolted already? So the bolts had a 4-5 year lifespan? Try putting that argument to the Trad climbers out there who worry about the world being bolted up! Who put these bolts in? What's the history? People will want to know and avoid the first accessionist's routes in the future. Does this mean we now need to list 'all' the re-bolters names in guidebooks now? Just to stay alive.
8 May, 2012
I thought most of Smalldale was Gary G's work in which case people will have to limit themselves if they want to avoid all his routes...?
9 May, 2012
We have updated this news item with some more information following a site visit yesterday. http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67105 Alan
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