Hard to get the right words. Obviously it's been repeated, over the years. I guess the connotation is 'revisited'. But the climbing speaks for itself. And, even though I can't understand a word of the conversation, the respect and the sense of care come across so strongly. In the end, that's what matters most - that we care about a route which 99% of us will never do, that we care because, way back, Wolfgang Gullich gave what it took, went out and showed the world what was possible. This series is a brilliant idea... And we've still got Jerry to come! < Coughs discreetly. Reaches for more ice-cream... > Mick