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Hi.

Just for fun 

Guess the grade of this problem I did with Plas Y Brenin many years ago.

I topped out by the way.

Sav


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 DaveHK 20 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

ED, 7a/6b+obl, A2, WI4, M5.

Am I close?  

Post edited at 22:58
In reply to DaveHK:

> ED, 7a/6b+obl, A2, WI4, M5.

> Am I close?  

Hi Dave.

Thanks.

I don't even know myself, it was a random boulder in a field.

Sav

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In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Tahdah!

Me topping out!


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 timparkin 21 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

4a?

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 McHeath 21 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

You get extra marks for a chalk-free send

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In reply to McHeath:

> You get extra marks for a chalk-free send

Thanks.

I didn't even have my own chalk bag back then.

Sav

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In reply to timparkin:

> 4a?

Someone did say it was VB at most.

 Brass Nipples 21 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Moderate 3a?

In reply to Brass Nipples:

> Moderate 3a?

 Tbh, I don't even know that area the problem is/was in - maybe Gwynedd.

Sav

In reply to DaveHK:

> ED, 7a/6b+obl, A2, WI4, M5.

> Am I close?  

Bouldering V grade, would that be around V3/V4 ish?

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 timparkin 21 Jun 2025
In reply to timparkin:

> 4a?

I should have said UK tech 4a (font 3) but I think MS got that

 JLS 21 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

8C+


In reply to timparkin:

> I should have said UK tech 4a (font 3) but I think MS got that

Yup

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In reply to JLS:

> 8C+

Apparently the sit start variation is F9a.

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 CantClimbTom 22 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

There are 2 grades of climb. Ones you can climb and ones you can't. Judging by the pictures this is one you can climb.

My question to you.. is how much did you enjoy it. If in the area again would you scamper up it again for pleasure?

Post edited at 20:37
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In reply to CantClimbTom:

> There are 2 grades of climb. Ones you can climb and ones you can't. Judging by the pictures this is one you can climb.

> My question to you.. is how much did you enjoy it. If in the area again would you scamper up it again for pleasure?

Appart from getting grazing one of my legs, I enjoyed it a lot. I would do it again for pleasure.

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In reply to Mountain Spirit:

From a technique and coaching perspective.

What technique I am using to ascend the problem?

Where, the two seams meet, could you jam and if any, what kind of jams would you use?

S

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 Jimbo C 24 Jun 2025
In reply to CantClimbTom:

> There are 2 grades of climb. Ones you can climb and ones you can't.

Who was it who said 'there are only two grades, piss and nails'? It may have been in Hard Grit.

In reply to Jimbo C:

> Who was it who said 'there are only two grades, piss and nails'? It may have been in Hard Grit.

Nails can be divided into three subcategories: nails, hard as nails and balls hard. 😆

S

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 Dunthemall 20 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

That grading scale existed. See history of John Gill. The bouldering B grades (1950s), has been climbed by ...

B1 a lot of people

B2 a few people

B3 one person. A repeated B3 is automatically downgraded.

Post edited at 09:01
In reply to Dunthemall:

If he had the gift of hindsight, he might have added B4 for ‘first of grade’. Gill’s list of B4s would have been Font 7B, 7C and 7C+, two of those added in the 1950s, so operating in the UK trad 6c/7A region. Stunning, although the Bleausards weren’t too far behind.
 

https://ukbouldering.fandom.com/wiki/World_Bouldering_First_At_Each_Grade

In reply to Dunthemall:

> That grading scale existed. See history of John Gill. The bouldering B grades (1950s), has been climbed by ...

> B1 a lot of people

> B2 a few people

> B3 one person. A repeated B3 is automatically downgraded.

So B3 must be balls hard then.

Sav

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 Dunthemall 30 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I don't know, have never completed one that is still that grade

Remember John could do one finger pullups, and pinch grip pullups on road signs ...

 Becky E 30 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> From a technique and coaching perspective.

> What technique I am using to ascend the problem?

> Where, the two seams meet, could you jam and if any, what kind of jams would you use?

> S

It doesn't look like the cracks are wide enough to jam (the bit up and left of your left hand is wider, but it looks flared). The angle looks perfect for smearing with your feet, making use of the cracks and seams as something to put your toes in/on. Hands are for balance here, rather than taking your weight.

 McHeath 30 Jul 2025
In reply to Dunthemall:

> Remember John could do one finger pullups, and pinch grip pullups on road signs ...

There’s a great piece about him in Jon Krakauer’s book Eiger Dreams. He apparently once soloed a new route ground up (can’t remember where it is) which was apparently 40 feet of vertical granite with very minimalistic holds. At its base and very close to the rock was an iron fence armed with big sharp spikes. Type 3 fun I would say.

PS I found it: “The Needle”, 5.12 now and he did it in 1960. The guardrail’s gone now.

Post edited at 11:36
In reply to Dunthemall:

> I don't know, have never completed one that is still that grade

Are you referring to the B grade system? 😀

> Remember John could do one finger pullups, and pinch grip pullups on road signs ...

Are you referring to it's founder - John Gill? 

I have managed to lock off on monos and narrow beast maker edges. 😀

Sav

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In reply to Becky E:

> It doesn't look like the cracks are wide enough to jam (the bit up and left of your left hand is wider, but it looks flared). The angle looks perfect for smearing with your feet, making use of the cracks and seams as something to put your toes in/on. Hands are for balance here, rather than taking your weight.

Hi Becky.

I agree with you on evrerything. Well done. 

If it was part of a trad route, would tot say the seams won't be able to take protection?

Bye 

Sav

 Becky E 30 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> If it was part of a trad route, would tot say the seams won't be able to take protection?

Seams rarely take protection. The cracks might take some, but it's hard to tell from the photo - the bigger crack looks too flared to be useful but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to fiddle some small gear in somewhere.

In reply to Becky E:

> Seams rarely take protection. The cracks might take some, but it's hard to tell from the photo - the bigger crack looks too flared to be useful but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to fiddle some small gear in somewhere.

Hi Becky.

There is a lot off small gear available such as peanuts and zero friends. Wound you say the placements if any are marginal?

I suppose you could run that section out if you don't any small gear.

A friend says that the entry crack of The Peapod is a  flared crack.

Sav

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In reply to Becky E:

> Seams rarely take protection. The cracks might take some, but it's hard to tell from the photo - the bigger crack looks too flared to be useful but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to fiddle some small gear in somewhere.

Typo: It should have been any small gear.


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