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 sausage 13 Jan 2010
hi, i am planning a short solo trip from buttermere to langdale over the weekend and am after some recommendations for food to take with me.
i am after something that is quick, easy to cook and reasonably tasty and doesn't cost the earth. i am planning on spending two night out and need food for two whole days on the hill.

what would you recommend?
 fishy1 13 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: couscous. add in nuts/salami/oil.

Dr.Strangeglove 13 Jan 2010
In reply to fishy1:
good call.
get the ones you just add boiling water too - that way you can boil one pan
then make a brew and some scoff in one go.

breakfast - porridge oats with instant custard and fruit.

and of course some good saucisson!
 Batcloud 13 Jan 2010
In reply to Dr.Strangeglove:

Supernoodles and instant soup, lots of pepper and chilly or curry powder -
cheap, light and tasty.

Breakfast - Muesli/instant porridge/milk powder/sugar/dried fruit, just add boiling water - easy.

The forecast looks grim, good luck !
 steviet_scg 14 Jan 2010
In reply to indalo:

3 course, one pot meal: instant soup, dehydrated pasta dish with added salami /pepperoni, mix of custard and milk powder with malt loaf for desert - all you need is stove, gas, spoon, pan and water. Oh, yes, and porridge and dried fruit for brekky
 fishy1 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Dr.Strangeglove:
> (In reply to fishy1)
> good call.
> get the ones you just add boiling water too - that way you can boil one pan


Isn't that all types of couscous?


Water doesn't even have to be properly boiling, just hot, although it takes longer to fluff up.



 Katie86 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

You can use peparami too...
Remember low fat = no taste.
 Padraig 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Katie86:
Remember low fat = no taste.

That's why god invented SAUCES!!
 fishy1 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Katie86:
> (In reply to sausage)
>
> You can use peparami too...
> Remember low fat = no taste

= someone who can't cook.

:P
In reply to sausage:

Cous Cous and salami is banging. Noodles and Hot Dogs are also ok, but after a lot of experience, Cous Cous wins hands down due to:

Low cooking time
no need for straining
easy to pack without breaking
cheap

just remember something to flavour it with!
Ben Boldison 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: i've got a load of army rations and deydarated rations for sale if you want some for future trips
 victorclimber 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: Ainsley Harriot cup a soups are excelent.
OP sausage 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:
thanks for the ideas guys. i think i am going to go with cereal of some kind and dried milk bot breakfast. and cous cous + some kind of sausage for dinner with some extra bits.

it should bet the usual can of stagg chilli and rice!

cheers
 jamestheyip 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

For 1 week+ trips I'll take dehydrated vegetables and meshed potato powder and tin/smoked fish. Use dehydrated anchovy instead if weight is critical. Lots of sugary stuff, dried fruit & nuts and muesli bars too.

For 2 nights you can just bring fresh food and make a feast! It'll only weight a few hundred grams more anyway and you've got a natural freezer to keep everything fresh. I had 2 hours fondue sessions with friends on some overnight trips... yum.
 GirlieEyes 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

I make homemade wayfarers..... I cook up whatever scoff I fancy ( usually a very spicy chilli and rice) and then put it in these zip up clear plastic microwaveable bags that you can get from sainsburys. When bivving I just plonk the bag into boiling water for 10 minutes and hey presto, hot food! The water can be then used for a brew and no washing up! Careful on plastic bag choice as some may melt (practice at home) when boiled.
 Nigel Modern 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: Wayfarer meals chili con carne (for 1) split between 1 or 2 portions of boil in the bag rice - so it feeds 2.

Coop are doing some very nice 'muesli' bars with chocolate or yoghurt on the bottom...a bit chewy when it's around zero!

Take a frozen home made spaghetti bolognese plus pasta? Thaws out slowly in this weather - make sure it's well sealed.

Hot chocolate drink in sachets.

'Hundreds' of Toffee Crisp, Snickers and Mars Bars.

Ready meals you buy like Wayfarer and Mountain House are expensive but I'm sure supermarkets must still do dried meals - used to be called 'Vesta' meals and some of them were actually good.

Ingredients for a risotto part cooked then frozen? Add rice and finish off?
 Nigel Modern 14 Jan 2010
In reply to GirlieEyes:
> (In reply to sausage)
> then put it in these zip up clear plastic microwaveable bags that you can get from sainsburys. presto, hot food! The water can be then used for a brew and no washing up! Careful on plastic bag choice as some may melt (practice at home) when boiled.

Ditto - bags are made by eg Baco (as in the foil)

Also - flatbread and bacon for bacon butties. A good butcher will vacuum seal it for you and it keeps weeks if seal unbroken (taking this to Alps with us this year)

 Nigel Modern 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Nigel Modern: PS ask for double thickness bacon
kohsamed 14 Jan 2010
M&S tinned Hot Beef Currys are pretty good
 Ricky Martin 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: have a look at these sort of like wayfayer but with a bigger range better ingrediance and in most cases more calories http://www.lookwhatwefound.co.uk/
 Nigel Modern 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Ricky Martin:
> (In reply to sausage) have a look at these sort of like wayfayer but with a bigger range better ingrediance and in most cases more calories http://www.lookwhatwefound.co.uk/

Nice one...these are cheaper than Wayfarer and available in quite a few supermarkets - worth a try
 wilkie14c 14 Jan 2010
In reply to Nigel Modern:
I've had some of the expo foods and they are pretty bland to be honest. for my last bivvi I bought some ziploc sandwich bags. Empty 1 tin of hotdag sausages into a zippy and a small tin of beans into another. These are stored inside my titan pot to protect them from bursting etc.

Evening meal:
Cup a soup starter with a bread roll.
Super noodles of your choice with 4 hotdog sausages chopped up in them.
Bit of cake with instant custard.

Breakfast:
Beans and the remaining sausages with another bread roll.

Fairly light, simple to cook just needing water and packed with calories. As you eat one course you can be boiling water ready for you next course. I found it works rather well.
 jowgli 14 Jan 2010
malt loaf, malt loaf and more malt loaf...can't go wrong
 Milesy 14 Jan 2010
Vacumn Packed Rice like Uncle Bens. it is ready cooked and you can eat it cold or just drop the pack in hot water to heat it. Easy carbs.
 Bungle 14 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

Microwave rice + meat. I usually take mackeral fillets in chilli sacue and brown rice and mix it all together. The rice only takes 3 mins to heat up with a touch of water. Just keep an eye on it as it only needs a gentle heat. Theres loads of flavours by Uncle Bens / Tilda etc and they all can be heated with a pan. Packed full of energy and tasty.
 Nigel Modern 14 Jan 2010
In reply to blanchie14c: You're a man after my (climbing) partner's heart!

I like the Wanderer Lancashire Hotpot but I've had it a few times now...Oh, and the beef stew. Puddings are not that good.

Just about to try the Mountain House (freeze-dried) meals to save weight.

How do you stop the bread rolls from getting flattened? That's why I'm experimenting with flatbread...as that's what I get anyway.

Noodles are a very good option for very light bivis before an early alpine start...and yes a few sausages would liven them up. I can't eat much breakfast at 4am at altitude so am going to try hot chocolate fortified with powdered milk with cereal bars...bacon butties are for back down at the tent.

French patiserie makes great bivi food eg Pain au raisin from the bakery in Argentiere....drool. I guess Co-Op ones would do.

Beans in Ziplocs is a good idea.
ice.solo 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

unsweetened muesli.

add condensed milk and raisins etc for breakfast.
add pepperoni and onion flakes for dinner.

just needs hotw*ter.
sounds odd, but simplifies everything, and youll be so damned hungry you wont care.

day food can just be good quality snacks in your pockets.
 wilkie14c 15 Jan 2010
In reply to Nigel Modern:

> How do you stop the bread rolls from getting flattened? That's why I'm experimenting with flatbread...as that's what I get anyway.

Helmet my dear boy!
They do get a bit mashed though, but they get mashed in your mouth when you east em so what's the difference?!
Sometimes bannas and custard rather than cake and custard - I got one of those banna guard psudo sex toy jobbies... <they work rather well>
 Nigel Modern 15 Jan 2010
In reply to blanchie14c:
> (In reply to Nigel Modern)
>
> [...]
>
> Helmet my dear boy!
> They do get a bit mashed though, but they get mashed in your mouth when you east em so what's the difference?!
> Sometimes bannas and custard rather than cake and custard - I got one of those banna guard psudo sex toy jobbies... <they work rather well>

Last time I carried a banana in a rucsac I nearly needed a new head torch...mind you the one I have now constitutes back up rations if I'm desperate....mmmmm banana flavour

btw what happens if you need to wear your helmet? 'Steve...helmets!' 'No way! It's nowhere near lunch time!'
 NearlyDutchDan 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

Pot Noodles :=)
 Gandalf 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:
chopped pork boiled for 5 mins in scotch broth soup - supriseingly good!
 NearlyDutchDan 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

Don't take food, scavange for it en-route (Watch Bear Grylls for some handy hints :->)
In reply to Ricky Martin:
> (In reply to sausage) have a look at these sort of like wayfayer but with a bigger range better ingrediance and in most cases more calories http://www.lookwhatwefound.co.uk/

these are brilliant - we use them on all our backpacking trips - quick to cook and really tasty
 NearlyDutchDan 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

ok joking aside, just make sure you take enough calories to keep you going, carbohydrates are best. Of course not forgetting the protiens.

I usually take brown rice for carbs.
I love sausison (sp?) which is full of fat and protien. Or makerel though it does smell a bit.

Add a little sambal for the taste.

I eat this at home too )

Of course if you're feeling adventurous, fry an onion, take some lamb chops - add a touch of rosemary.... mmmmm
 BruceM 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:
Similar to one previous mentioned but, for light fast cooking hot tasty one-billy alpine climbing main bivvi meal:

1. Instant veg soup in a sachet, add water
2. Add some dried onion, and dried peas (can be premixed with soup at home)
3. Add precooked smoked spicey sausage of some kind chopped up (eg. kabanos)
4. Optional: add chopped fresh capsicum if you can be bothered (tasty extra)
5. Bring that to the boil
6. Remove from heat and add appropriate amount of instant mashed spud and stir, to bulk it up

Yum.

Just as quick as cous cous, but potentially has more energy value, bulk, and taste.
 GrahamD 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

I like instant mash with salami/chorizo. Add vegi OXO to make a soup and or add extra taste.
 Mario Sciacca 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: parma ham, or even better, smoked cured ham.. doesn't require cooking.
 Nigel Modern 15 Jan 2010
In reply to BruceM: Dried peas are almost as good as fresh or frozen

Where do you get them nowadays? Do supermarkets stock them? It's years since I've used them.
 Nigel Modern 15 Jan 2010
In reply to Mario Sciacca:
> (In reply to sausage) parma ham, or even better, smoked cured ham.. doesn't require cooking.

...and keeps well I think?...How long?
 fishy1 15 Jan 2010
In reply to Mario Sciacca: If I had limitless funds, I would probably just eat that and parmesan cheese.
 fishy1 15 Jan 2010
In reply to Nigel Modern: Almost indefinitely. Don't get it wet though or it will spoil in a few days in hot weather.
 BruceM 15 Jan 2010
In reply to Nigel Modern:
> (In reply to BruceM) Dried peas are almost as good as fresh or frozen
>
> Where do you get them nowadays? Do supermarkets stock them? It's years since I've used them.

Yep. Supermarkets. But I can't remember the last time I got them here in the UK. And they also keep changing stock here. They're easily available in supermarkets on the continent. Often kept around the instant mashed spud. Perfect!

 Ricky Martin 15 Jan 2010
In reply to fishy1: and die of scurvey? you need melon wiht it lol
 Nigel Modern 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage: Just happen to be planning 3 mountain trips involving about 10 different individuals, so this is not an anorak-ish as it seems...

Just had 'Look What We Found' main meals:
Meatballs - very good
Chili con Carne - Very good...I think I could make better but not absolutely sure...they do weigh 300g each though

Both with rice (separate boil in bag

Pudding:

Mountain House Mixed Fruit and Custard (weighs 100g dry) - best commercial outdoor pudding I've had and you can afford to carry a lot of these and plenty of calories in them, easy to eat...
 Nigel Modern 15 Jan 2010
In reply to BruceM: Ta Bruce
 Andrew Wilson 15 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

i recommend fresh pasta, such as tortelloni or ravioli with a ready made sauce. takes very little cooking and no preparation, which will be relevant if cooking in a bivi in horrid weather!

if the weather is really yukky then something that can also be consumed cold without cooking can be useful, no good being in the middle of nowhere in a gale with no shelter and some dry rice! ive been there and ate my next days lunch instead. there are boil in the bag meals available that can be eaten straight from the pack without cooking. i'm sure they are delicious. really.
 keith leonard 16 Jan 2010

> what would you recommend?

More than you think?
 Fran 16 Jan 2010
In reply to sausage:

In addition to whatever else you take with you I personally find a red onion adds perfectly to pretty much any dish. And, As its really hard for it to go off is an amazing companion in your rucksak.

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