In reply to Sabilly1:
> Was going to take the panoramic lift from midi but it's mega busy and they cant Garuantee it will be running.
My experience last week is that the Panoramic itself isn't especially busy, but booking an early slot on the Midi lift from Cham is a challenge - definitely book your slot a few days in advance, more at a weekend.
If you do get an early lift you can always walk to Helbronner in a few hours from the Midi?