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i was looking in to buying a new stove and fancied the jet boil . i know it boils water really qwuickly and is efficient etc but can u cook pasta and other food stuff like that in it.
this kind of seems a stupid question but all the peopl i know whove got one only use it for water.
thanks
this kind of seems a stupid question but all the peopl i know whove got one only use it for water.
thanks
In reply to Ollie B:
which model? or which pan? jet boil is a stove like any other really, I don't think it is more efficient or quicker than anything else out there particularly, just much, much heavier.
which model? or which pan? jet boil is a stove like any other really, I don't think it is more efficient or quicker than anything else out there particularly, just much, much heavier.
In reply to winhill:
cous cous? You only need to boil the water then pour it on...
I like cous cous...
cous cous? You only need to boil the water then pour it on...
I like cous cous...
In reply to Ollie B: I seem people cooking for 1 no problem in it(in the cup). Pasta, noddles, smash, boiling meats/vegetables, just dont go frying bacon in it.
In reply to GreyPilgrim: Cous cous = lumpy starch paste
In reply to IanJackson:
You must be doing it wrong!
> (In reply to GreyPilgrim) Cous cous = lumpy starch paste
You must be doing it wrong!
In reply to Ollie B:
Hello I have made pasta on an MSR blowtorch type stove. you just bring it to the boil, put the lid on, leave for 5 or 10 minutes while you heat the sauce, and make a cup of tea, then boil again, leave etc until cooked, It doesnt seem to take any longer than if it was on the stove all the time.
Hello I have made pasta on an MSR blowtorch type stove. you just bring it to the boil, put the lid on, leave for 5 or 10 minutes while you heat the sauce, and make a cup of tea, then boil again, leave etc until cooked, It doesnt seem to take any longer than if it was on the stove all the time.
In reply to Ollie B:
cool thanks for all that really usefull.
cool thanks for all that really usefull.
In reply to IanJackson:
I agree with the Grey one. You're definately doing it wrong.
You can get varieties of pasta that cook quickly; Tesco's farfallini, for instance, needs 4 minutes.
The other thing to think about is cozy cooking; boil the water, then trnasfer it to an insulated pot, and let time do the rest. After all, you only usually simmer pasta and the like.
> Cous cous = lumpy starch paste
I agree with the Grey one. You're definately doing it wrong.
You can get varieties of pasta that cook quickly; Tesco's farfallini, for instance, needs 4 minutes.
The other thing to think about is cozy cooking; boil the water, then trnasfer it to an insulated pot, and let time do the rest. After all, you only usually simmer pasta and the like.
In reply to captain paranoia: Ill give it another go. Treat it with a bit more respect. Are the rules similar to cooking rice?(obviously not as long)
In reply to Ollie B: Jetboils are great. They are best if you only boil water, then make tea, coffee, couscous, custard etc. in your plastic pint mug. I was snowholing last winter, and the advantages of being able to boil a half litre of water in a ridiculously short time while holding the stove and pan in one hand are enormous. Especially as you watch your colleagues wrestling humorously with their petrol stove. Couscous is great, too.
In reply to Ollie B: Another random tip- DON'T try to dry your socks in one, it goes badly wrong
In reply to pinkpeople53: I've heard of someone trying to dry their gloves in one. They melted and smoked furiously forcing the abandonment of the snow hole.
In reply to Will1: was that someone you?
In reply to IanJackson:
Ah; that'll be why you get wallpaper paste...
No, for cous-cous, simply boil the water, pour over the cous-cous, and leave for five to ten minutes. That's why it's so good for camping, as it doesn't need all that simmering that rice or pasta does, hence saves fuel. Works even better with a cozy to keep the pot warm whilst it 'cooks'.
e.g. here are the instructions from Sainsbury's flavoured cous cous:
How to cook.
Boil in 7 minutes.
1. Melt 10g of butter or margarine in a saucepan.
2. Add the contents of the packet and gently cook over a moderate heat for 1 minute.
3. Add 200ml of boiling water and bring to boil.
4. Remove from the heat, cover and stand for 5 minutes.
5. Return to the heat for 1 minute, stirring with a fork to separate the grains.
I skip steps 1, 2 & 5...
> Are the rules similar to cooking rice?
Ah; that'll be why you get wallpaper paste...
No, for cous-cous, simply boil the water, pour over the cous-cous, and leave for five to ten minutes. That's why it's so good for camping, as it doesn't need all that simmering that rice or pasta does, hence saves fuel. Works even better with a cozy to keep the pot warm whilst it 'cooks'.
e.g. here are the instructions from Sainsbury's flavoured cous cous:
How to cook.
Boil in 7 minutes.
1. Melt 10g of butter or margarine in a saucepan.
2. Add the contents of the packet and gently cook over a moderate heat for 1 minute.
3. Add 200ml of boiling water and bring to boil.
4. Remove from the heat, cover and stand for 5 minutes.
5. Return to the heat for 1 minute, stirring with a fork to separate the grains.
I skip steps 1, 2 & 5...
In reply to pinkpeople53:
I wish I could have seen that!
I do like the idea of a jetboil type stove for quick brews / cous cous / pasta etc. Anyone used one with the bigger pan? Looks really unstable, but I guess a stove support would help with that?
Si
PS Cous-cous is dead simple, follow the Capt instructions and all will be well. Don't use too much water!
> (In reply to Ollie B) Another random tip- DON'T try to dry your socks in one, it goes badly wrong
I wish I could have seen that!
I do like the idea of a jetboil type stove for quick brews / cous cous / pasta etc. Anyone used one with the bigger pan? Looks really unstable, but I guess a stove support would help with that?
Si
PS Cous-cous is dead simple, follow the Capt instructions and all will be well. Don't use too much water!
In reply to SCC: I's not unstable at all in my experience and is almost as efficient as the small version. The pan's excellent but the lid's a bit naff, it warps over time.
In reply to Lemony:
Don't tell me you were boiling the cous-cous, like you would with pasta? That would explain the goo
Put some in a bowl, boil some water, and pour the boiling water on top. try to get about 2/3 cous-cous, 1/3 water (but maybe vary it with experience to your own preference)
leave it until the the water is absorbed, then give it a stir with a fork to seperate the grains.
You can always add some herbs / spices to it before hand to give it a bit of a kick. Tesco's do a nice cous cous flavouring range...my favourite being the lemon and herbs one.
Don't tell me you were boiling the cous-cous, like you would with pasta? That would explain the goo
Put some in a bowl, boil some water, and pour the boiling water on top. try to get about 2/3 cous-cous, 1/3 water (but maybe vary it with experience to your own preference)
leave it until the the water is absorbed, then give it a stir with a fork to seperate the grains.
You can always add some herbs / spices to it before hand to give it a bit of a kick. Tesco's do a nice cous cous flavouring range...my favourite being the lemon and herbs one.
In reply to GreyPilgrim:
I'm pretty sure that Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrissons, etc, all get their falvoured cous-cous from the same source. My favourites are Mediterranean and Moroccan flavours:
boil water, add to cous-cous and set aside
finely slice some chorizo (e.g. Lidl's finest)
briefly fry to release fat
add garlic, chopped onion & pepper and fry together
add pre-cooked cous-cous and stir together.
Yum.
> Tesco's do a nice cous cous flavouring range...
I'm pretty sure that Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrissons, etc, all get their falvoured cous-cous from the same source. My favourites are Mediterranean and Moroccan flavours:
boil water, add to cous-cous and set aside
finely slice some chorizo (e.g. Lidl's finest)
briefly fry to release fat
add garlic, chopped onion & pepper and fry together
add pre-cooked cous-cous and stir together.
Yum.
In reply to Ollie B:
You can cook anything that is fairly liquid in a Jetboil.
However if you are boiling past etc, you need to be very careful that it doesn't boil over (your hands).
You can cook anything that is fairly liquid in a Jetboil.
However if you are boiling past etc, you need to be very careful that it doesn't boil over (your hands).
In reply to Glen: Personally, I try to work on the 'don't get the pans dirty' principle.
This means only using it for boiling water. Food is either 'boil in bag' or 'warms through in a plastic bowl'- preferably a bowl of it's own- pot noodle style (you can get some nice cous cous types these days).
Especially as they're a bugger to clean the bottom of, particularly if you've got big hands and it's burnt- which is quite likely as darned hot at the bottom of that pan.
When I have tried to cook in it Glen's advice is also spot on- they boil over very easily. That ain't good- you lose your water, make a mess and potentially scald yourself.
This means only using it for boiling water. Food is either 'boil in bag' or 'warms through in a plastic bowl'- preferably a bowl of it's own- pot noodle style (you can get some nice cous cous types these days).
Especially as they're a bugger to clean the bottom of, particularly if you've got big hands and it's burnt- which is quite likely as darned hot at the bottom of that pan.
When I have tried to cook in it Glen's advice is also spot on- they boil over very easily. That ain't good- you lose your water, make a mess and potentially scald yourself.
In reply to Ollie B:
I think Jetboils are the final word in winter/ Alpine - you can melt huge quantities of snow in record time. I use a nalgene bottle with insulating jacket for mixing soup, supernoodles etc, to keep the jetboil pan dirt free. You can squeeze a boil in the bag meal in to the pan but you need to be careful as it can spew boiling water over a wide radius if left to it's own devices.
I think Jetboils are the final word in winter/ Alpine - you can melt huge quantities of snow in record time. I use a nalgene bottle with insulating jacket for mixing soup, supernoodles etc, to keep the jetboil pan dirt free. You can squeeze a boil in the bag meal in to the pan but you need to be careful as it can spew boiling water over a wide radius if left to it's own devices.
In reply to Ollie B: lidl's pasta casa funghi- 2 tasty portions for 160g/4min/55p
In reply to IanJackson:
Are the rules similar to cooking rice?
The best way of cooking rice IMO are
1) put rice in pan with water, about 1 cm water above rice
2) bring to boil
3) boil for 1 min
4) stick pan with lid in sleeping bag and wait 20 minutes
In the meantime you can make some tasty sauce. This method does not waste any fuel, as no hot water is wasted: eveything gets soaked up by the rice - so more fuel efficient than boiling pasta. It works a treat both at home and in the outdoors.
(The only problem maybe if you are already in the sleeping bag)
Are the rules similar to cooking rice?
The best way of cooking rice IMO are
1) put rice in pan with water, about 1 cm water above rice
2) bring to boil
3) boil for 1 min
4) stick pan with lid in sleeping bag and wait 20 minutes
In the meantime you can make some tasty sauce. This method does not waste any fuel, as no hot water is wasted: eveything gets soaked up by the rice - so more fuel efficient than boiling pasta. It works a treat both at home and in the outdoors.
(The only problem maybe if you are already in the sleeping bag)
In reply to Maarten2: that maybe a fuel efficient way of (partially) cooking rice or pasta, but it's not the best
In reply to Rob1976: yeah, boil for 0 min
In reply to Rob1976: the gnarlyest mountaineers barely reach boiling point- ask boB
In reply to Ollie B: Don't buy a jet boil, they are completely stupid. Heavy, expensive, not versatile, not much faster than most, they have an insulated cover which absorbs water, so you can't a) scoop up water from a stream or b) let them boil over otherwise they become even heavier; failing that they soak up grease/food and go skanky. You can't put a proper pan on them, so if you fancy some bacon in the campsite you need another stove. You can't even fill them full, cos when they boil they practically explode. I can see no real purpose to them except as a 'look at my shiny toy' piece of gear freak wank material.
I have a pocket rocket, which you can get well cheap, but I think if I was buying a stove now i'd go for the optimus crux, as it has a wider flame. I think it may be expensive though?
Sam
I have a pocket rocket, which you can get well cheap, but I think if I was buying a stove now i'd go for the optimus crux, as it has a wider flame. I think it may be expensive though?
Sam
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In reply to captain paranoia: Thanks ill give it another shot. I hope past experiences dont spoil cous cous for me. eating starch paste for a week took its toll last summer.
In reply to Sam L:
Problem resolved with one small accessory.
http://www.ryedalerambler.com/product/279/JetBoil_Stove_Pot_Stabaliser_Supp...
> You can't put a proper pan on them, so if you fancy some bacon in the campsite you need another stove.
Problem resolved with one small accessory.
http://www.ryedalerambler.com/product/279/JetBoil_Stove_Pot_Stabaliser_Supp...
In reply to Ollie B:
Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
In reply to Ollie B: well this is definatelly a lot more of a response than i was expecting. cool.
so im guessin you can cook a variety of stuff in them an lidl is the place to go for food (knew that one already but nice to be reinforced)
thanks guys will have to go browsing an look into a pocket rocket as well.
so im guessin you can cook a variety of stuff in them an lidl is the place to go for food (knew that one already but nice to be reinforced)
thanks guys will have to go browsing an look into a pocket rocket as well.
In reply to Sam L:
Ta-da!
http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Accessories/Fry-Pan
True: the 'max fill line' is halfway down (or up) the pot... And I have a lot of sympathy for your other points.
The one advantage of them is the improved fuel efficiency. You can test this yourself by putting your fingers at the exit of the heat exchanger ring; no burnt fingers. Try that with a normal pot.
But it is heavy and bulky and not brillinatly executed as a design. It's certainly not 'lightweight kit', and the weight you might save on fuel is made up for by the weight of the thing itself (mine is 427g). My Pocket Rocket & Titan kettle weigh 220g. But then I've spent the last few weeks intensively designing new meths burners and pot stands that weigh grammes... Shame meths weighs so much...
> so if you fancy some bacon in the campsite you need another stove.
Ta-da!
http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Accessories/Fry-Pan
> You can't even fill them full, cos when they boil they practically explode
True: the 'max fill line' is halfway down (or up) the pot... And I have a lot of sympathy for your other points.
The one advantage of them is the improved fuel efficiency. You can test this yourself by putting your fingers at the exit of the heat exchanger ring; no burnt fingers. Try that with a normal pot.
But it is heavy and bulky and not brillinatly executed as a design. It's certainly not 'lightweight kit', and the weight you might save on fuel is made up for by the weight of the thing itself (mine is 427g). My Pocket Rocket & Titan kettle weigh 220g. But then I've spent the last few weeks intensively designing new meths burners and pot stands that weigh grammes... Shame meths weighs so much...
In reply to captain paranoia: That also needs the pot support & stabiliser that I linked to.
In reply to Anglesey Pete:
Yes, the weight just racks up, doesn't it...
Of course, you could just stick three pegs in the ground...
Yes, the weight just racks up, doesn't it...
Of course, you could just stick three pegs in the ground...
In reply to captain paranoia: and deprive jetboil of their hard-earned cash?
Why buy the fancy pan for £35? I got one in morrisons at the weekend for £3.49!
Why buy the fancy pan for £35? I got one in morrisons at the weekend for £3.49!
In reply to Anglesey Pete:
Fortunately, I deprived EMAP of their hard-earned cash to get my JetBoil... and no, I didn't subscribe to one of their magazines...
> and deprive jetboil of their hard-earned cash?
Fortunately, I deprived EMAP of their hard-earned cash to get my JetBoil... and no, I didn't subscribe to one of their magazines...
In reply to winhill:
As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
> (In reply to Ollie B)
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> Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
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> Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
In reply to Slugain Howff:
>>Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
? As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
That would be mighty odd of a company that's trying to persaude you to buy one of their products.
http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Technology
Like all things it comes down to horses for courses.
The main extra weight of the jetboil is the heat exchanger. The idea is that you're exchanging that weight for the weight of extra fuel that you'd consume heating water. Of course, if you're only out for a night in mild weather, that isn't so important, but then the chances are if you're only out for a night in mild weather you're not actually that worried aobut a couple of hundred grams.
>>Strange how the perception of the JetBoil is that it is fast, when JetBoils own figures show it to be slower than most.
? As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
That would be mighty odd of a company that's trying to persaude you to buy one of their products.
http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Technology
Like all things it comes down to horses for courses.
The main extra weight of the jetboil is the heat exchanger. The idea is that you're exchanging that weight for the weight of extra fuel that you'd consume heating water. Of course, if you're only out for a night in mild weather, that isn't so important, but then the chances are if you're only out for a night in mild weather you're not actually that worried aobut a couple of hundred grams.
In reply to Slugain Howff:
pick and choose any of the blaster style stoves, pocket rocket, optimus crux.
> (In reply to winhill)
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> As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
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> As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
pick and choose any of the blaster style stoves, pocket rocket, optimus crux.
In reply to Slugain Howff:
I respectfully refer you to this
http://www.kellykettle.com/
> As a matter of interest what are the faster options?
I respectfully refer you to this
http://www.kellykettle.com/
In reply to Anglesey Pete:
Just the ticket for a rain soaked Scottish hillside!
> (In reply to Slugain Howff)
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> I respectfully refer you to this
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> http://www.kellykettle.com/
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> http://www.kellykettle.com/
Just the ticket for a rain soaked Scottish hillside!
In reply to Ollie B:
I'd save your money and get a pocket rocket or similar. I think mines ace. Light, fast to boil water and you can (burn) bacon on it if you want. Perfect.
I'd save your money and get a pocket rocket or similar. I think mines ace. Light, fast to boil water and you can (burn) bacon on it if you want. Perfect.
In reply to Ander:
I don't think so. The heat exchanger weighs very little (I'd guess around 10g), as it's a piece of folded lightweight aluminium alloy. The main extra weight of the JetBoil is the massively over-engineered lid, HX protection cap, neoprene cozy, pot coupling frame, and burner assembly. Admittedly the HX cap can serve as a small drinking cup if you need one.
The argument for incorporating a cozy on the pot is that it helps reduce fuel use. However, the in the time it takes to boil water, there isn't much time to lose heat from the pot. If you want to do cozy cooking, take a lightweight plastic pot (e.g. recycled) to put dried food and boiling water in, and use a separate cozy. This allows you to use the cookpot to heat more water. The separate cozy will probably be more efficient and lighter, too.
As others have observed, the neoprene cozy is just a bit of a pain.
> The main extra weight of the jetboil is the heat exchanger.
I don't think so. The heat exchanger weighs very little (I'd guess around 10g), as it's a piece of folded lightweight aluminium alloy. The main extra weight of the JetBoil is the massively over-engineered lid, HX protection cap, neoprene cozy, pot coupling frame, and burner assembly. Admittedly the HX cap can serve as a small drinking cup if you need one.
The argument for incorporating a cozy on the pot is that it helps reduce fuel use. However, the in the time it takes to boil water, there isn't much time to lose heat from the pot. If you want to do cozy cooking, take a lightweight plastic pot (e.g. recycled) to put dried food and boiling water in, and use a separate cozy. This allows you to use the cookpot to heat more water. The separate cozy will probably be more efficient and lighter, too.
As others have observed, the neoprene cozy is just a bit of a pain.
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