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Pefa 10 Jan 2020

100 years since they were literally unleashed the Wolfe Tones are iTunes No.1 with Come Out Ye Black and Tans.

Did Churchill inadvertently hasten the Irish Free State? 

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/winston-churchill-black-tans-ireland

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Kevster 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Pefa:

Anyone else expect the roaches?

My iTunes history isn't the best....

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MJAngry 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Kevster:

I was expecting Bowden. 

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coldfell 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Pefa:

My grandparents fled the Black and Tans, to England and work in the mines-it has been onwards and upwards since. I am hopeful for an independent unified Ireland very soon.

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Albert Tatlock 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Kevster:

Or the East Manchester climbing club 

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Baron Weasel 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Kevster:

> Anyone else expect the roaches?

I was expecting a drink made from half stout and half pale ale. 

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Welsh Kate 10 Jan 2020
In reply to coldfell:

My grandmother left Dublin after meeting my grandfather who was in the British army in Dublin after WW1 (not in the Black and Tans, I hasten to add!) She returned to England with him, and like you it's been onwards and upwards since.

I'm also extremely grateful to said grandmother (who in all honesty wasn't a favourite of the family!) for enabling me to claim my Irish citizenship and the passport of an EU country

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capoap 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Pefa:

I was at Holyhead Mountain

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coldfell 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Welsh Kate:

I am so on the point of trying that route, but not sure if it would benefit my offspring or partner.

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coldfell 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Pefa:

Ps I have enjoyed all of the above routes too, with some trepidation!

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Stichtplate 10 Jan 2020
In reply to coldfell:

>  I am hopeful for an independent unified Ireland very soon.

Is that one Ireland, independent of foreign powers and re-unified with the rest of the U.K.? 
 

...only asking 😂

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Minneconjou Sioux 10 Jan 2020
In reply to Pefa:

I don't think that there was any one single event that brought about the Irish Free state. The problem with any discussion on Ireland is the level of emotion often outpaces the level of historical fact leading to skewed nd one sided arguments.

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captain paranoia 11 Jan 2020
In reply to Welsh Kate:

> enabling me to claim my Irish citizenship

So, will it be Irish Kate from now on...?

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Welsh Kate 11 Jan 2020
In reply to captain paranoia:

ooh, I think that would be too confusing - I'm still Metric in some places!

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Dr.S at work 11 Jan 2020
In reply to Welsh Kate:

> ooh, I think that would be too confusing - I'm still Metric in some places!


Imperial, shirely?

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